They dont need to add a new one.
They have one already its called a hunter.
Lone wolf exists and was designed to make the class petless if ppl chose to.
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There are 2 ranged physical specs in the entire game both originally designed with and around pets and your contention is we don’t need another physical ranged class because of an uninspiring talent that was made baseline because every MM hunter used it because it was better dps then the pet?
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I choose to want that talent slot replaced by something interesting rather than just a flat DPS increase for making your class less interesting. But that’s just me. If you want something that isn’t a Hunter then ask Blizzard to make a new class.
Again, I’m tired of Hunter being the designated lab rat for all of these experiments. Make a new class or a new spec rather than diluting old ones.
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I just want it to have moar powar!
I just want to use my ghost wolf pal I’ve had for 13 years as MM and be viable.
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Unless you’re pushing Mythic Raids or high level mythic+ dungeons, it is.
I guess I should say, I would like some form of synergy with it.
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That’s fair! I think that Marks is fine as-is; the core mechanics of all of the classes have changed over the years. However, I can definitely see how it might be a bridge too far for those who preferred MM with pets.
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Than you are punishing the people that prefer going petless not only with damage (pet’s deal damage too ya know, the 10% From LW is nice but you are not doing 10% less with a pet out but they miss out on the buffs, tank pet and the useful ability’s.
I would love it if they could balance LW/pet damage and give LW the option to pick a passive + the ability pet’s bring so we have real choice.
If you REALLY, REALLY, REALLY just don’t want to use your pet…and you NEVER solo, you need to be asking for a much bigger damage bonus than 10 pct.
-You are losing the ability to counter some classes in pvp WITHOUT your pet available to you.
-You can’t solo hard targets without your pet.
-You are giving up utility
It’s nice to BELEIVE that your pet is optional, but the reality is simply not there.
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What I personally would like is a passive like leach or maybe dodge or something useful but not OP tied to it on top of a choice for like masters call or one of the other pet utility. I’m fine with pet / no pet having no dps advantage over each other but as is like you said you lose so much utility that could be baseline for MM.
I disagree with you here. I have never felt the need to use a pet while leveling nor when doing BFA content. The only real need for a pet is for AoE when you are alone or one of those very few tough mobs that you have no room to kite. Having a pet early in a patch does help with some of the tougher stuff but it’s not needed.
When in group content no pet is better than using one for plenty of reasons.
While MM feels a little flawed and needs tweeks it has a decent kit to work around, more so in SL from what I have seen. With some of the changes in SL like binding shot being added baseline for MM they should also feel a bit better to use in open world content.
Good. Now remove Lone Wolf and replace it with an actual interesting talent. If you want a petless ranger, ask for a new spec or a new class instead of diluting a pre-existing one.
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Lone Wolf isn’t a talent anymore.
Being dismissive - of either side - is not exactly constructive.
Oh I forgot. In that case still remove LW and give MM some actually interesting talents. No sense in having a passive that contradicts the class, especially since it is an extra aspect to balance the spec around. I don’t want to feel obligated to abandon my pet if they may experience a tiny bit of downtime.
…So like i said…not optional, not even going to get into the PVP side of this.
Why not? This is my only real disagreement with this whole argument, stop asking for scraps. Other ranged classes have multiple stuns, roots, fears, movement abilities AND higher either burst or sustained DPS.
-Our defensive doesn’t remove DoTs that are already applies AND prevents DPS
-Our movement speed abilities are stupid high cooldown, or tied to the loss of OTHER CC.
My point is that what ever you ask for tune UP, stop asking for things that won’t get you on an even keel with other classes.
Something like 50pct armor piercing AND a leech. Make it COUNT