PLEASE keep a permanent WOTLK era server for us blizzard!

WoW Classic Cataclysm Classic Discussion
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The idea of a permanent Wrath Server is enticing, but I think there DOES need to be a path forward. However, every game is judged based on multiple factors…gameplay, graphics, story, etc…but one of the main factors that gets overlooked is replayability. Zelda, Final Fantasy, Halo…name the franchise and one of the best aspects is the ability to replay the game with the same level of enjoyment.

Toward THAT end, Wrath servers would be best managed by completing the existing lore and content. Blizzard has already done that with some features (RDF, pet/mount/toy management, etc.) and has also shown that they can manipulate the classic code (e.g., SOD).

So, why not:

  • Keep a few Wrath servers. 2-3 would suffice.
  • Re-vamp the Classic zones with features that were introduced in TBC & Wrath, like faction Reputations (e.g., Stormwind consists of Goldshire, Westfall, Lakeshire, and Darkshire, and quests in those zones help build faction rep. Rewards are the Classic quest items, and overall Stormwind rep gets you faction rewards like Armor sets. Similar to Alliance Vanguard/Frostborn/Silver Covenant/etc. in Wrath).
    *Re-work the skills and armor sets
    *Make zones available that are otherwise restricted to future expansions (I.e., Gilneas, Kul Tiras, etc.).
  • Do NOT screw with the classes. No one wants the restrictions introduced with Cata.

Replayability is what the majority of the Classic fanbase wants, minus the detractors who insist on new content. This is evident in the popularity of SOD & Hardcore mode. So make that experience worthwhile and KEEP what continues to draw players back to the franchise. I have dozens of guildies, friends, and family members who began with WoW in 2004 and quit when Cata was launched. We came back for Classic, and we continued through Wrath since that was the culmination of the story begun way back in Warcraft 1 through Warcraft 3: Frozen Throne. KEEP that, and refine it. Don’t burn it to the ground in the name of ‘new content.’

Trolls & scoffers will mock ideas like this, but they really don’t understand the issue…and no one really cares what they think about the subject. If you can’t be constructive and understand that people do NOT want wholesale changes to the franchise, then just keep it to yourself.

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Don’t know why it uses THIS profile; I haven’t played this toon since 2009. Classic characters can’t be used, and it’s not even using my main. LOL

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That’s better.

As an addendum, I may check out Cata initially, but it was so f’ed up the last time that I anticipate that I’ll quit and move to Classic. And virtually everyone I’ve talked to about it (anecdotal, to be sure) have said the same. So, those trolls who are just SURE people will stick around for Cata…your numbers may stay the same (or increase!) initially, but they WILL taper off precipitously.

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Same man. I wanted wrath classic since wow classic was announced. And I wanted a permanent wrath classic option to when it came down to it.

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I don’t understand those boomers that don’t give a thing about WoTLK still get to reply this thread with negative comments. Dude, if I want to stay in WoTLK, shut the foot up and let me ask for a WoTLK era server! It’s not like you’re gonna pay for it.
People that still love Cata, you got what you want already so leave this kind of threads for people that don’t think like you and just wanna stay playing what for us is the best version this game ever had.

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I really want this too. I could play wrath forever, its where i started.

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Not true. You have no data.

It’s all Blizzards data. Literally belongs to them. You just pay them to use it.

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And that data isn’t deleted either.

That’s like saying you turn 30 this year and your 29 year data is deleted. No, you just move on with your life. And if you can’t be 29 forever, life isn’t worth living?

No argument they make makes any sense, and only indicates they don’t think Wrath is worth playing.

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The issue has been polarized, and low IQs think if you are on one side you have to hate the other. It’s like anything else in the world. Politics, religion, the news, you have to be on a side.

The fact that Blizzard has also (at this point) chosen a side (or more appropriately, made their stance known), makes it more polarizing.

Might make it easier to understand, but it doesn’t make it any less STUPID.

I personally don’t think it makes any sense on paper to do a Wrath server, but it’s not a bad thing to have one either (I’d love a BC server too).

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To me, in all honesty, everyone has different tastes. And I liked the wrath of the lich king flavor the best. And if they move into cataclysm. Wrath of the lich king, my favorite version of the game period. Will no longer be playable. Which is why it is so frustrating.

As much as I liked the future versions of wow after wrath. I didn’t find them to be nearly as much fun. And I honestly never cared for vanilla classic or classic bc that much either. And I don’t really care about classic plus or SOM. I just want wrath classic.

I just feel like permanent wrath classic servers should be a thing. And of course alot of other people don’t think so. But it’s pretty obvious a select amount of people agree with me to. I mean, I know we have permanent vanilla classic. I really don’t care. I just want permanent wrath.

I also don’t hate anyone’s opinion who disagrees with me. I just don’t value their opinion. If they think wrath classic as a permanent option shouldn’t exist. I disagree with that opinion. And I don’t think that is hate. But we do live in this world in america anyways, where we are politically polarized in the real world. But also, since cataclysm came out, we have been polarized with wow politics to. I honestly would be 100 percent satisfied if a permanent wrath classic option came to fruition.

Also. Blizzard never really said no about permanent wrath classic. They just stated they do not currently have plans. But that could change. I mean, we were told there wasn’t ever going to be a dungeon finder. But now there is. Not a fan of that decision, but at least it didn’t prevent me from playing wrath classic. Going into cata prevents me from playing wrath classic anymore. And SOM and classic plus and permanent vanilla servers do not count. I think more options is always going to be more appealing. And we live in this world where we have less and less options as we go forward.

I honestly feel like the people who don’t want there to ever be a wrath classic. Well, I don’t agree with it. And the people who are neutral about the whole thing can just stay out of it. I feel like the people who disagree with having permanent wrath classic options. Those people are just not objective at all. That is what I am seeing. Apparently, only one side is allowed to be happy. The rest. Well, our opinions don’t matter. People who think wrath classic as a permanent option shouldn’t be a thing. Well, blizzard probably won’t do it, and we don’t think they should do it either.

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This gets pretty incoherent towards the end. I am one of the neutral ones so I am not saying this to be against your point. I am not sure based on that last post if you are ESL or not but either way more concise might be more beneficial to your cause.

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I guess when it comes to the end of my post, I mean, I have neutral opinions to. But I never generally talk about them unless my opinion is asked for. Specifically about movies. I watch them. Say they are great. Sucked up 2 to 3 hours of my life. And I move on. And if someone asks what I think, this is what I usually say. Nothing bad or good really. Just straight up apathy.

Now, ESL. Sorry, But I don’t have a clue what that abbreviation means. Not exactly 100 percent fluent with the facebook, twitter, and texting world.

Heck I never even really post on the forums. There aren’t really alot of problems that I see worth complaining about. But wrath classic is a big one in my op. And I really don’t understand why anyone has negative opinions on whether it should be made or not. It isn’t like if wrath classic permanent options get made, those players lives are going to be wrecked something like that. Or blizzard will go bankrupt. Or that it won’t make any profit.

There just isn’t any real reason to have a negative opinion on this. But you know, those players, they are entitled to their opinions. And you tutall, are entitled to having a neutral position on the wrath classic debate. And I am entitled to posting about permanent wrath classic servers until I get them. Plain and simple.

I mean, you negative anti permanent wrath classic folks are just as entitled to your opinions. Let me be entitled to my opinion as to why I feel they should exist. And the neutral opinion players can be entitled to having a neutral perspective on the permanent wrath classic debate.

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I see you obviously disliked my advice about being concise, which is your right.

ESL is not a Twitter or new thing it is an abbreviation for “English as a Second Language”.

The forums reach a wide and varied audience so I don’t just assume everyone speaks English as their first language.

Anyway since you lumped me in with the anti Wrath crowd at the end there just wanted to make it clear I enjoyed Wrath and would be fine with them having a permanent server for that or any other expansion. I appreciate not being misrepresented or thrown into groups, especially ones I don’t belong in :blush:

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As for ESL. This is true. Not everyone does learn english as a second language. But some people do you are correct. I honestly do assume that folks who play wow speak english first actually. I mean it is http://US.forums. So these are the US forums. And personally, the US education system is pretty terrible in my op. You have to set that up yourself, because public schools aren’t allowed to really teach anything. And then I play on the american servers also. And english is the language most folks end up speaking first in america. Provided they are born here and not born elsewhere and then migrating here. Or their parents taught them after they migrated here.

I mean, in my op, everyone in america should know spanish. As soon as I came out of my mom, I should have been learning spanish. And learning doesn’t really come naturally to me either. So fun going to community college and failing the same stupid math class 3 times. And you can’t really take that to a college or university level, spending thousands upon thousands of dollars for that. Makes no sense to me. So I stopped going after I hit my associates degree in basic arts and science and general studies.

I mean, there are so many other things I could add, but I agree. Not everyone might know english first. And some people posting on here might know 4 languages. Who knows.

On the forums, I have never really seen anyone speak spanish or german. Or anything else really other than english. But I kind of just assume that. And other countries are completely different. Places like Japan or new foundland. As cool as Japan is, you better adapt quick. Since I don’t adapt very well, no sense of going to those places. You speak japanese, bow to the cashier after you process an order. Eat with chop sticks. Etc.
And if you stink at learning like I do. You are better off avoiding those places.

And don’t go to new foundland expecting anyone to speak english to you. They absolutely will refuse to do so.

At the same time, alot of people on the forums might have learned spanish first and then english. I dunno. I just assume people spoke english first usually,

And I legit mentioned that you were a part of the neutral crowd in my last post. I mean, didn’t mean to lump you in with the wrong crowd. But my other post should have made it clear that you are indeed part of the neutral crowd. My bad for misrepresenting you.

But the last part of my post still rings true. Whether you remain neutral about wrath classic permanent options, or you hate them, or you want permanent wrath classic server options. We are all entitled to those opinions. And there really isn’t a point in arguing anymore. I don’t know why people are arguing about it to begin with. I want permanent wrath classic to happen. You remain neutral and don’t care either way. And others don’t want permanent wrath classic server options.

Now you don’t have to keep saying I lumped you in the wrong crowd. I corrected that, and associated you with the crowd you belong in. So we really don’t need to talk about that anymore.

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Why do the have permanent classic vanilla server but wont have a permanent Wrath server?

Wrath was, if not the MOST, popular expansion. Why cant blizzard, a multi billion dollar company, keep dedicated wrath server up to give players a choice?

I’d rather play permanent wrath than permanent vanilla. Wrath has tons of achievements, thats when they first came out, so lots of players have tons of stuff to do in wrath. What do you do in vanilla classic for that long? IT makes more sense to have a wrath server than a vanilla classic server…

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Because Vanilla is more popular than Wrath and they likely weren’t aware that everyone would abandon the servers as quickly as they did.

No one is going to play Wrath “permanently” to collect achievements. Retail also has achievements.

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Do those achievements suddenly not exist in Cata?

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The old overworld certainly doesn’t exist anymore in cataclysm. As well as some achieves. Like getting a bloody zulian tiger for instance.

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It exists in Classic Era, which wasn’t true the first time. And in Wrath people are just buying boosts and not even leveling.

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Not me. I actually was leveling. I just currently am not really play wrath classic, as there is no point in playing. I want a permanent option for wrath and blizzard currently isn’t giving us one.

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