Seriously, this outdated mechanic needs to be removed. It’s used to justly punish people maybe 10% of the time, while the rest of the time it’s used for griefing.
They didn’t want you using the crystals. They didn’t want you there. You got kicked.
I’d suggest asking when they want them used next time.
The mechanic isn’t outdated. Thank your fellow players who held groups hostage for the need.
I think the Deserter debuff should only apply to people who actually desert whatever activity they are leaving. You can get kicked for a variety of reasons, including no good reason at all, and I think having to wait for another queue to pop is punishment enough.
Except people used it as a way to hold groups hostage for dungeons they didn’t want to be in and could get back into groups automatically to troll and harass.
Used what?
I agree, people who get dungeon deserter should be removed. Permanently.
Why would I bother asking if I can use an insta-kill mechanic to speed up the dungeon…? And how does that, in any way, warrant being blocked from playing for half an hour?
Being kicked. Leaving meant deserter debuff. Kicked meant there wasn’t one and thus, the toxicity happened that made the debuff enabled for all.
Not really following, but that’s okay.
Because back in the day, it was only used at a certain point. It’s also possible people didn’t understand the mechanic and thought they were getting screwed out of xp or something, because they never ran it before.
Thus: explain or ask. Communication is key.
Because the group decided they didn’t like what you did and kicked you.
Back in the day when LFG was first introduced, there was no debuff. Then a debuff had to be added for people up and quitting, because it was becoming an issue to refill groups. Then, people were holding groups hostage, not tanking or healing until they got kicked, because only leaving got the debuff. So if they got kicked, they could immediately requeue to try for the dungeon they wanted. Then, people were trolling groups, harassing people, getting kicked, immediately rejoining to harass and troll some more… so the debuff was added to getting kicked, as well.
The system doesn’t discriminate, doesn’t care why someone was kicked or left. Everyone gets the debuff— thanks to toxic players.
No, they didn’t. I didn’t even think the crystals were the issue, until ONE person from the group said it was. The rest of the party? They clicked yes because “it came up on their screen.” Most people just click yes to kick someone the second it appears, without knowing the reason.
One person decided he didn’t like the dungeon being that easy, and decided by himself that I was banned from dungeons for half an hour? This actually sounds okay to some people?
Eh. But they did. Even if it was just because it came up on their screen, they clicked yes. They could have just as easily clicked no!
Take the L and move on. If I get a deserter buff I just alt hop until it wears off. Or do something else. There’s always something to do.
And everyone else clicked yes. Thus, the group kicked you. Not one person. A majority has to say yes. And you don’t know if they decided why or if they just randomly clicked yes.
You weren’t “banned.” Let’s not get dramatic.
Go do something else until you can queue again. There is no way to fix this system that will work for everyone. It’s the lesser of evils— thanks to your fellow players.
As Nui said, take the L and move on. The system is a necessity.
Why not something as simple as, you only get the deserter debuff if you’re kicked from 2-3 dungeons in a row…? Don’t immediately bar someone from running dungeons solely because ONE group of jerks decided you were done playing?
See my entire above explanation that you apparently did not read.
No. I read it. This solution works. If people are annoying and trolling in groups to get kicked on purpose, to avoid the deserter debuff, then they’ll just get one after the next kick which will probably happen soon after?
Except it doesn’t. 
It’s not okay to hold groups hostage for a few dungeons, because you can’t handle a debuff.
How are they being held hostage?? I was kicked 1 whole minute into this dungeon. If someone is trolling, they get kicked. They don’t get the debuff. They requeue, troll another group, get kicked, NOW they get the debuff. What’s not making sense?
I don’t know how many more times I can explain this…
Tanks and healers would get into a dungeon they hated. So they’d sit down and refuse to tank or heal until they got kicked. Groups of friends or guildies would do the same as DPS. They’d sit and wait until they were kicked to try to get the dungeon they wanted instead. But it was more an issue with tanks and healers.
So you’re claiming no deserter for being kicked for two or three dungeons. Meaning people have to put up with the same crap we used to back in the day.
So, the possibility of a group being minorly inconvenienced for 1 minute is absolutely unacceptable, but victims of griefing being inconvenienced for 30 minutes is okay? You actually think that’s a better solution?