Please just let Drackthyr perma stay in Visage form

I look around at the environment while I’m just doing filler :+1:
Maybe there’s a pat we missed inching his way over I can CC, maybe 1 out of 7 mobs is about to cast a heal and I can interrupt it

Always elves with the bad takes.

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Elves and humans cant be an evoker. Elves and humans cant have the awesome scale, horn and ear options, elves and humans cant have horns (ok demon hunter but still).

The visage form is great, and i dont see a problem with making it more usable in combat. Though some abilities should put you in dragon form even if temporarily. Its kinda hard for a humanoid form to fly and do a breath sweep.

I dont get why people are so “its one OR the other! And if its not mine you are wrong!” We can have both visage form and dragon form. Let there be options.

If you want to be dragon 24/7 then do it, no need to remove visage form…

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I won’t deny that. The closer the game is to the world story, the more fun it is to me.


I can see past passive aggression ya know.


Why not, just make them like druids and have to be in drake form for maximum potential lol.

Evoker is the dragon class bruh…

Want elves with horns, DH is a choice.

Humans will get that class eventually too.

Dragons should fight in dragon forms, specially on a class baised on them.
Worgen would also be left out on this, it’s already bad enough dracthyr got worgens promised transform toggle.

There is also a problem with the race visage forms being yet another copy of existing races, so it should be encouraged to use the dragon form at least in combat. It should not be the go to for those models since it is not the main feature for the race. Unlike say forsaken (feature is being an intellegent undead) or lfd (feature is being lightforged, not just an ordinary mortal.)

Yeah i know i am hyperbolic on it since i am the model toggle guy, but i think if you choose to play the obvious dragon race, you should be at least in dragon form some of the time, specially since it makes sense being that dragons is at their strongest in their natural form, and with the ego dragons tend to have with it.

For many classes they have simple enough rotations where you really just have to look at your bars for the cds.

Although some cd heavy specs you may look at your bars more.

Like fury warrior. Don’t really have to look at your buttons, just cds.

Destro warlock too.

On a spec like sub rogue i have to see stuff like shadow dance and get more distracted since I don’t play that so much. Or outlaw rogue, always looking for what buff you got.

They said in an interview that they were going to allow you to fight in visage form save for a few abilities a while back. I will try and find it again.

To be totally fair, Kaurmine, almost every form of medieval fantasy is “your flavor of racism” and it’s nothing new.

WoW has been all about racism from the beginning, and honestly, was written better when it was something like racism because it had actual motivations based on mortal problems with other people whether it be lacking understanding or otherwise.

Disclaimer: Racism in any form is bad within the real world, and is not something I ever support.

With that disclaimer out of the way though – fantasy racism is fine. It’s fictional racism against fictional races. And like I said, almost every universe within fantasy boils down to “your flavor of racism”. We see it in other games too, like Baldur’s Gate. If you play a Drow in Baldur’s Gate, people actively and outwardly treat you like you’re the scum of the planet, going so far as to call you “under elf” and a whole bunch of other bad things.

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Honest question: how manh unique skeletons do you expect blizzard to make?

We have i think 14 player models in the game that fit the current armor models without changes needed to the armor or removal of armor slots like mechagnomes.

I dont see how its a problem using those exising skeletons and giving them new features, especially when the draconic form has a unique model.

So i really dont get peoples coniption with it using human and blood elf skeletons. At least every race isnt just a human with slightly different features like every other MMO out there.

And I did say in the quote you chose that certain spells should require draconic form. Its an undeniable part of the race, and should be utilized. But if people want to be in visage during most combat instances i see no problem having draconic form working like a demon hunters demon form. Temporarily switching for certain abilities and then changing back.

Very well, we’ll never see eye to eye then, I don’t care about story, lore, or anything of the sort.

So then I haven’t said it, glad we cleared that up.

I’m waiting on human druids too

I’m not going to spend time looking at my character for no reason, that’s not who I am. I don’t care about graphics or animations.

I just think it’s fun because “back in the day” creators would say and do more stuff but now that same stuff is hyper offensive :laughing:

Yeah, some abilities can be used out of form, but once you change, you stay changed.

From a triple A company that has supported the same game for 20 years, i expected more then we have now. Games of other genres don’t have this as a big problem that blizz acts like it is honestly.

I got no problem with them as long as in combat they are draconic. And i fully expect blizz to fix the lack of transmog issue with dracthyr’s base model. As it is not acceptable.

Umm, hate to burst your bubble, but this game is that.

Going back and forth through combat is another issue i failed to stat, it would become a graphical mess and an issue with servers, it’s easier to leave them in dragon form until after combat.

That us the magic of passive aggression, you say it indirectly. Bonus points on being to be “smart” about it.

Fair enough.

So i take it you’d be the void elf paladin type then?

I vote no.

yes please

I mean, with a name like Givehighelf, is it really that much of a secret?

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I am treating my Visage form much like I treated the alternate models in EQ2. I am setting it up just in case it’s ever needed, because I might as well try to make it look the best I can, but I would ideally like to never use it.

Dragon form all the way for me. :slight_smile:

That said, if they can find a way for the people who prefer Visage to be in that more often, it’s no skin off my back. More options are usually better.

This thread devolved into ad-hominem while i was away… I am just going to pop in one more time to say this.

The foundation of this race, from an ideological standpoint within blizzard, is customizability. During the reveal itself they made it very clear that they wanted you to feel like you could make this a character that you identify with.

Different people identify with different aspects of the race, this is intentional. Some people like being a dragon all the time. Some like being lithe and skinny, or bulky and muscular. Some people like being dressed up totally in armor, and others like their dragons to be bare and simple. And some people like to be a humanoid with dragon features instead.

All of this is part of the race. All of this is already an option. People who are hard no’s against anything to do with the visage form, why do you want to dictate how people enjoy this race when the cornerstone of its creation was “Enjoy it how you prefer”?

Blizzard even said, quite a while ago, that they were discussing internally how they’d work the visage into combat. That they did not want game mechanics to interfere with people’s enjoyment of the race.

I don’t really agree with the OP’s motivation but i do agree with the idea. The race is meant to appeal to as broad an audience as possible, so let it.

They are not even full dragons. The vague hint to their backstory blizzard gave us is that they were made with both the essence of dragons and mortals. The race has a duality that we should be enabling.

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Or the magic of paranoia :laughing:

If I had a reason to be, I don’t play stuff just to play it I play stuff for a reason. In DF I’ll have an evoker just because I need every class covered.

The longer threads go on the more likely it is to occur :rofl:

That sounds unintentional considering what was said.

Ion spoke about it in an interview with Buffed. He said that they were looking into ways to allow a player to stay in visage form outside of specific dragon abilities (such as deep breath or soar.)

Then don’t play a dragon race

It is literally a dragon

Visage
In the next build, Dracthyr will no longer switch to Visage when getting on a mount, flight path, etc. Additionally, they will have a new racial ability called Chosen Identity that you can “Activate to automatically assume your Visage when you leave combat or after Soaring.” Chosen Identity will stay toggled on until manually deactivated. As a note, existing Alpha characters may not have Chosen Identity learned.