20 years of wow contradicts your opinion.
When in 20 years of WoW has there ever been 2 non hardcore servers to choose from at the start of fresh server launches?
Fair enough. I can understand that. Iâm just in the opposite camp. Iâd rather it not fail, given the time investment put into classic characters, having it happen to me with DD, and seeing it happen with SoD.
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If it fails in this case, like many times before - they offer free server xfers. So whatâs the harm?
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I understand where your stance comes from, and youâre 100% correct that Blizzard does usually overshoot with their server count, but in the same right no iteration of WoW so far has had this few of servers either.
Instead of them having 10 servers or so at launch weâre having 3, with one being a very niche game type that attracts a different type of player. I just donât believe the fear of a spread playerbase is logical at this point.
If we were sitting at 6 servers and asking for a new one for RP-PvP, I would be more inclined to agree with you.
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Oh I mean Iâd also definitely rather it not fail lol. Iâm just saying Iâd rather have it, despite the risk of it failing, than not have it at all.
I donât think it would fail, though. In fact, I think it could be excellent.
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If it has a single-layer I will def play an RP-PVP realm, otherwise the other incentive for me to play on one, faction balance, has already been solved for classic fresh. We shall see though. Maybe Iâm being a pessimistic about the whole situation, time will tell.
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iâd like to express my support of this idea
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Thank you.
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DD was absolutely self sustaining, but it suffered immensely from bad actors coming from outside the fresh movement who specifically wanted to disrupt the phasing. Self-sufficiency wasnât the reason any of the major guilds, including Bluffwatchers, stopped raiding - the reasons varied from guild to guild.
But again, there was a reason why the fresh movement was able to happen at all on an RP-PvP realm and not anyyyy of the other âdead eraâ servers. Theyâre built diff. You enjoyed the fruits of it, but youâre simultaneously denying that itâs that different to begin with.
Not to be rude but as someone who is a self-professed ânon-RPer,â I think you kinda just have to believe us RPers when weâre saying these things. You may not be able to perceive the difference in experience between RP on an RP-PvP realm and RP on âregularâ realm, but weâre telling you what itâs like.
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Issue is they open a pvp rp sever.
Then they want a PVE rp server.
Then OCE wants their server.
Then east and west want their own servers.
OCE is not a play style, nor is East/West. Ezpz problem solved.
RP is a playstyle and is covered by having an RP-PvP realm. There ya go.
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I think that there definitely are people coming here with the assumption that RP realms are basically identical to standard ones; just another realm to further distribute the playerbase.
Roleplaying realms can completely change WoW for those who enjoy them; I donât think that I would have kept playing for as long as I have without them. While not everyone can understand that experience, the number of people so persistently asking for RP-PvP should serve as strong evidence that there is something different about these realms which makes them worth having in the game.
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And where are those threads mentioning those servers with 550+ replies and 1.5k likes? Not to mention the goalposts youâre moving.
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If I learned anything during the huge debates over dual spec inclusion, itâs that the slippery slope argument isnât accepted. We just have to see what happens, but it sounds like all the people who would willingly choose to role on a RP-PvP server are ready to accept the chance of a âdeadâ server and play regardless, so if you arenât going to roll on said server⌠what are you missing out on?
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please blizzard add rp servers or iâll have terrible withdrawals and itâll be YOUR fault
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Please include rppvp servers
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I mean there are threads asking for stuffâŚ
Are you trying to say only you guys are allowed to ask for something?
Or is what youâre asking for more important?
Please link the threads asking for the servers you specifically mentioned that include the overwhelming support that this thread has shown for the RPPVP request.
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I was in multiple guilds that essentially posted the same exact discord notification you sent out by not being able to sustain raiding with problems of attendence, fellowship of the fresh, kingfishers, bluffwatchers. Wood department left because they didnt have people/streamers to grief anymore. The only guild that was the exception was vicious cycle, and we both already know that whole story.
I donât think RPâers are what made DD great it was people who wanted fresh. Although I guess you can stretch it and say, âwell people who abide phase rules are RPâers;â however, they are not your traditional RPers.
The reason Alodar picked DD was that it was a single layer, was low pop to simulate fresh, and didnt have the inflated GDKP bot economy of WMC, not to RP, outside of phase rules.