TBC classic would be infinitely more enjoyable with dual spec. I can go out and farm primals easier, I can help friends do quests and dungeon easier, and overall have more fun playing the game.I don’t see any reason why dual spec shouldn’t be implemented now. The reason we play games is for enjoyment and I would have much more fun if I can get a group and run a dungeon in 5-10min instead of waiting 45+ min to never find a tank/healor, getting frustrated and logging off.
Unlike other changes, it’s a significant alteration to gameplay in an era that was not balanced for it. Just wait for Wrath Classic if you want it so bad
i agree
wait til WotLK
How does dual spec imbalance the game? You can’t use it in the middle of a raid or the middle of an arena match.
well for one, the gold sink of respecing is gone.
How is it not balanced for it. If the game is balanced for a shadow priest how is it not balanced if I have a shadow spec and a holy spec. The imbalance in the game is a lack of tanks and healers and dual spec would increase the numbers of both
Respecing isn’t a gold sink. When a commodity is priced so high very few purchase it isn’t a gold sink.
very few??? lol wut?
You don’t need to change your entire spec just to farm primals.
Yes you can
We do have dual spec. You just gotta pay gold to swap specs.
Dual spec kills spec identity…
Respeccing is an important gold sink in TBC, for one. Removing that gold sink only serves to weaken the economy
For two, it enables rolling for off spec and hurts main spec rollers
Do you not want to spend the gold?
What will you spend the gold on otherwise?
If people have more gold, the “prices” that other players charge for things goes up, the economy changes.
Buying potions will cost more, enchants will cost more, people will start charging more to tank for your group. More GDKPs. More people rolling need on BoEs to sell.
It’s a theory, would be interesting to see if I’m right.
It’s not even that. Right now having a gold cost to respeccing gives people a goal. “If I want to raid then pvp this week, then be ready for raid next week, then I need to make at least this much gold.” It give people incentives to go out into the world and DO things. If people don’t want to respec, then it forces people to be social and play with guildies or friends if they happen to be in a tank/healer spec.
Obviously dual spec came latter in Wrath, so i won’t speak on that; but for TBC, Dual Spec doesn’t just kill spec identity. It kills the game’s identity.
Well said! Amen!
Are there any indications that this is meant to serve as a gold sink? I think someone linked something indicating that it’s meant to act as a deterrent to respecc’ing often, encouraging players to focus on a role, and also making choices matter.
I could be wrong, but either way, I don’t think dual spec is really a good solution, because I haven’t read a well defined description of the problem that it aims to solve.
So, you want Dual Spec, because it makes the game easier. Is the game too hard to be enjoyable? Is that a problem that requires solving?
My thoughts on Dual Spec as a solution:
Duel Spec adds one key component to this game: FUN
Is this not why we play? Is dropping an insane amount of gold multiple times of week FUN to you? Grinding mobs as a healer because you don’t want to waste the gold? PvPing in raid spec because you can’t afford it?
Cmon now. The gold farm from classic was so insane that using a “money sink” is a terrible reasoning for not adding it.
It’s part gold sink. Remember, the idea of paying to respec is 16 years old. Back then people didn’t have nearly as much gold as we do now. therefore, respeccing was a big deal, and expensive if you did it a lot. Also, gold is effectively infinite, as people will always be selling trash to vendors, and mobs will always drop trash items. Repec costs ARE one way of removing gold from the economy.
Also, many things in original WoW were meant to force you to be social. The deterrent of respeccing meant that if you were a tank or healer, then you would most likely need to party up with guild members or friends in order to farm or do things.
Dual spec doesn’t solve this problem.
Not sure if you actually intended this as a reply to my comment, or to the OP now that I read this.
I don’t really disagree with the points you’re making. Respec fees seem to act as a deterrent to respecc’ing.
Sure, and if you had played Diablo II, before coming to WoW, you would have been used to not having the option to respec.
Only if people pay them. As it stands, my point (which is a subjective opinion) is that respec fees deter people from respecc’ing more than they act as a gold sink. But either way, I don’t think we’re really in any sort of disagreement here
Yeah, I can understand that, and maybe that’s precisely why it’s working as intended.
I dunno man. It appears many of us are finding the game very fun right now without dual spec. I could just be imagining it with people all over the world, LFG channel scrolling so fast for groups it almost makes my eyes bleed.