Please get rid of stoneform, I want to be able to play whatever race I want without feeling like I am gimping myself / my team. My shaman is tauren, I have to run a ward trinket to live the bleed on Talondrus in Uldaman. Racials should not be powerful enough to be able to play encounters completely differently, they should be pure flavor/cosmetic.
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Why get rid of Stoneform instead of making an exception for dungeon mechanics in M+?
Though I really don’t think that’s even necessary, strong as it is on one feature, it’s still a niche benefit.
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When you start doing higher keys (15,16+) you really notice all the little things that can help you push further, it is an unfair advantage.
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Dark Iron Dwarf was really easy for me to hit 1800 on in PvP, because of how their racial removes basically most debuffs. And empowers you for each one.
However, I like my Kul’Tiran more, because his racial just more just for fun- the punch knockback. Certainly MUCH less useful.
I have laughed countless times, punching folks to their deaths.
It really sucks, my Dark Iron was much better from a min-max perspective, but I like the visuals on my KT more.
Racials have always been a problem area in WoW. I mean, humans were just nerfed going into TWW. And their replacement racial, a shorter Hearthstone cooldown, kinda seems like a cruel joke lol. Especially compared to the better, combat-oriented, racials.
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They have a combat racial, the new hearthstone one is just replacing the rep gain, they still have will to survive, and the other vers combat racial
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It just works on stuns now, as far as I know.
Back in WoD, it used to be a total PvP trinket, removing basically any CC on you.
At least they still have the 2% bonus stat passive.
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yes 2% bonus stat passive thats what i meant! and yeah, their racials are still amazing, its just the rep racial that got taken away
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Oh yes, as a MM hunt, ward of the faceless ire is mandatory in keys 14+ (also I have crap defensives).
I feel ya, not being a dwarf or NE is like trolling your team.
Shadowmeld and Stoneform are beyond broken imo
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If they did get rid of it, would that somehow help you survive or just make you feel better that you don’t have a better option?
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@Kyama, it would make it so that I wouldn’t feel forced to play dwarf on any class that can be dwarf, I pointed my shaman out because it’s my only alt that ISN’T dwarf.
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I race changed from panda to dwarf due to bleeds and other effects but mainly bleeds cause shammy is hopeless against them. My biggest headache is trash pulls before first boss in no and also 3rd boss in uld, I use ward and fyrak trinket in both dungs.
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Genericize racials. Make it a point based choice of which ones you take. Let anyone choose whichever racials they want, except for extremely niche ones which can be locked in choices, like LFD lazer beam. Inb4 “muh RP,” there’s more RP value in having choice in character traits than for every one to be the same cookie. Plus people who care about racials are already playing a race they don’t want to be just to have the one they need.
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Nah, let’s get rid of racials in Mythic difficulty.
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A guildie of mine actually had a great suggestion making racials kind of like how PvP talents are currently, maybe there could be like main hub where you could go to and swap them so there isn’t any abuse, but it’s just kind of silly. Especially the things we have seen teams do in MDI with TGP with full night elf teams, and this has been happening since BFA.
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Make meld not usable in combat 
Make Dwarf not remove debuffs 
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Where’s your camp site, I promise not to burn it.
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I’ve always thought about restricting it akin to how old talent changes were restricted. Start with a low gold amount then make it higher each time up to a cap. While I wouldn’t say I’d want people to be locked in, I do think it should be something not changed often. I’d like them to be character traits like something you’d get from a character background.
Isle of Thu-
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I had to flip to Dwarf on Mythic Sark because I was the solo tank in transition so me having Stoneform to clear the Mythic-only stack mechanic was the difference between “the raid wipes” and “we can progress to phase 3”.
Which is stupid.
Blizzard USED to have Stoneform in the game and make boss mechanics where Stoneform didn’t magically remove it.
But then they decided “we’d rather people just not play Horde” and started tossing in tons of mechanics that can just be stoneformed.
Bombs on Tindral.
Stacks on Fyrrak.
Mythic stacks on Sark.
etc.
It’s stupid. Get rid of it. You could eliminate the debuff removal entirely and Stoneform/Fireblood would still be better than most racials in the game.
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Or how about we stop designing the game solely around m+ and mythic raiding and just let us keep what little neat stuff we have left. Seriously if you’re that worked up over a racial dwarves have had since vanilla, all because it gives them a slight advantage in such a specific situation, then you’re whats hurting the game. At that point you might as well remove all racials and “streamline” the game even more.
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