PLEASE for TWW: increase melee class range

The QoL difference between playing Rogue, Ret or Feral vs. other melee classes is insane.

The variance to enemy hit boxes mean that normal melee are generally full on humping mobs to ensure no accidental range issues in dungeons. Combine this with how ground visuals do not have clear edges, and it makes dps up-time more difficult. Switching/tabbing targets is hit or miss without repositioning constantly.

Personally, melee range is a big part of me choosing something like DK vs Paladin. I would love to play DK more, but after playing Paladin, it is just painful.

My Monk game play especially suffers from this due to Tiger Palm having additional range, so it’s not immediately obvious when auto attacks are not hitting.

Please Blizzard, either give all melee classes a talent to increase range or just increase it to 8 across the board.

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Blizz stated in a recent alpha update that they intend to remove the extended range for most melee classes.

  • Developer’s note: Acrobatic Strikes no longer increases the range of melee attacks. We are revisiting increased melee range talents across the game, and most are being removed. Default melee range has increased since these talents were originally created, allowing specs with increased range to attack from well outside where it appears they should be able to.
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As a melee player I have fully accepted that this game is not designed for me. Mechanics will always be high movement, take you away from the boss, keep you just out of range, and your DPS will always suffer.

It just be like that sometimes.

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To be fair, most ranged classes have become turrets and having to move often heavily affects their dps, whereas melee can move and be unaffected. Both ranged and melee dps have their pros and cons.

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None of you PVP and it shows

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Yeah, the range difference between Ret and WW was really surprising.

It sucks that they are changing it, but the classes with range had a huge advantage during most boss fights.

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8 yards max is fine, anymore is over kill.

We are melee, we should be up close and personal.

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Ret didn’t need to be dumbed down even more with the increased range on basically every ability. Although I suspect ret is going to keep a fair bit of its range because class fantasy or something.

It was dumb that some melees, like rogues, had the extended range while others didn’t. It’s a nice qol, but it needs to be standard across all melees.

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Range is not our class fantasy, we are holy warriors. We should be in melee.

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If anything DKs should keep the range, unholy specifically. It makes sense their magic infused strikes would be able to hit even at range.

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I will never understand complaints about fight mechanics interrupting maximum DPS.

It’s a demon trying to take over the world, not a training dummy. Why should it just stand there and get stabbed repeatedly?

Fights with a lot of movement or group coordination required tend to be the better or more memorable fights.

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Yes, I was being cynical. Blizzard’s idea of class fantasy is bizarre at times.

8 yards max is fine, anymore is over kill.

We are melee, we should be up close and personal.

I agree that it should not be a ridiculous increase. Right now, the main reason it’s needed is due to failed design in mechanics (e.g., unclear ground effects) and inconsistent melee hit box for mobs. Fixing those is a much bigger ask than slightly increasing melee range across the board.

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I mean,

Melee.

The entire concept is close and personal?

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On my pally I feel like I’m free to bounce around everywhere. Easy to avoid mechanics while still pumping.

Meanwhile on my arms warrior I feel like I’m, as you said, humping the boss’s leg for the entire fight.

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Casters don’t have 100% uptime either since they need to stop casting and constantly move out of mechanics, so it’s only fair. The only spec that can brag about it is BM Hunter.

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laughs in paladin main

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If the tank moves the boss 8ft to the left it does nothing to you. I have to chase them around trying to stay in range.

And casters have tons of abilities to let them cast on the move, melee don’t have abilities to increase range of melee attacks. I think warlocks are mainly the ones who get interrupted the hardest.

Ranged have it much easier most of the time.

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But seriously, what’s stopping you from moving 8ft to the left along with the tank? You don’t need to stop your damage to do that.

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Blizzard is removing the increased attack range talents, so you got what you wanted from a certain point of view.