Please fix Zekvir?

It really should not be this much of an RNGfest. Eggs spawn across the room right in time for the cleave to have the maximum area to hit it. Also there is a point where even if you dont get hit with the web grab, it will grab you anyway and pull you through the portals.
It would be really nice if I didn’t have to waste my time attempting this just to have RNG kill me from something stupid. Bran didnt send out a healing potion. Zekvir 2 shots you and dead. Bran pulls the boss out of the area and it reset? gg you failed. Bran didn’t move out of the fear or the cleave because you cant program his AI worth a damn? GG you failed again. I have tried this across all 3 dk specs at 621 ilvl with a 47 Bran and it should not be this terrible. Being one of the slowest classes it really sucks that Death Charge/Advance doesnt even remove the movement slow either.

8 Likes

This guy needs more repair than that stupid machine in the deeps.

Same devs, I betcha.

2 Likes

I did the easy one (?), but from everything i have read about the ?? version, it’s a little over the top for Delve only peeps, unless you were fortunate enough to roll a handful of classes/specs.

I really like solo challenging content, but i want to be able to push against an encounter, learn from my mistakes and have a better go at it on my next attempt, getting fully buffed up and smashing my face into something while i cross my fingers for certain mechanics/ability orders to go my way sounds like a recipe for an awful evening lol

4 Likes

RNG might kill you a few times, but it’s a skill issue if it happens consistently.

10 Likes

Bait the cleave before going for the egg, interrupt the slow.

Edit: Forgot about the heal, interrupt that. Save movement CDs and find the sweet spot melee distance to be able to avoid both circle and cleave attacks. As a DK you should be resistant enough to the slow to handle it.

3 Likes

Oh boy. grabs toolkit and drill

Zekvir is leaking again eh? If you let this become a repeat problem the property manager is going to have questions.

2 Likes

I was talking about ??. And it isnt a skill issue when the add spawns farthest away from him. I really liked the mage tower because it had you use everything within your toolkit and was possible regardless of ilvl. I like learning the mechanics and slowly getting better, but when your abilites dont even work (deaths advance) it is discouraging.

Also the grab through the portals is bull. When you are standing behind him it still hits you and pulls you through. Ive lost many runs at 10% from that.

1 Like

Frankly, the only things making ?? challenging are the crappy RNG and Brann’s AI being terrible. You can play around the former, but the latter… welp, good luck.

Should be a cakewalk as a lock, slap Havoc on Zekvir the moment cocoon shows up and starting going to town with Chaos Bolt/Shadowburn and anything else you have.

I wouldn’t necessarily say that.

That’s not really how it goes. It’s more like you can always play well and beat it but skill RNG and gear will all always be facrors, the less of one you have the more of the other two you might need to compensate. It’s absolutely a fight you can learn / practice / work towards defeating.

That cone attack of his makes it difficult. Too far and you can’t get out of the way, too close and you get hit with his fear.
Having said that, I haven’t gone after him for quite some time.

1 Like

My favorite thing Bran does is literally stand in his AOE fear and become incapacitated in phase 2 constantly.

2 Likes

It is even worse for a slow melee class. And about baiting the cleave. By the time he is baited the cast bar is at 1/4 the way through. By the time i run over there it is over half. I can burst, but running off to egypt is insane.
And the interrupt for spittle, i can amz it half the time, but my interrupt will only come off cd just in time for the heal.

2 Likes

Yes, fix him! We don’t need any more of these giant creepy bug lobsters popping up in our delves!!!

Spay and neuter all the nerubians while you’re at it!

3 Likes

Wouldn’t he get the heal off if you kick spittle though?

He has no enrage timer with relatively easy to dodge attacks. Might take forever as long as someone meets the egg dps check.

What do you think if Zek’vir were to have ramping damage added to the fight or scaling egg health?

Would that make for a more enjoyable fight?

Correct, you kick the heal, use whatever spell you have that removes a snare. That will remove the spittle

1 Like

Sometimes you get bad RNG on mechanics, but most of the time you could be doing something different. What class are you attempting this on?

If you’re constantly finding yourself out of position and getting caught in his frontal you could probably be spending your mobility CDs better or positioning the boss better.

Again, as others have said - The only DPS check in the encounter is on his egg add. If your DPS is low you can still kill the boss by playing defensive and weaving offensive CDs for his egg spawn.

At this point in the season Zek Vir is not only killable by every class, but farmable without much difficulty. You can absolutely get the kill with some practice. That said, it’s meant to be a challenge that has a relatively low completion rate.

1 Like

All I can offer is the following:

Fight boss dead centre so the distance egg can spawn away from you is equal in all directions

Plan out your cds/burst for each egg if necessary (I think it’s around every 30sec? Idk)

When running to egg, anticipate the shock wave and either position boss at the egg then face him away or run to the side of the egg to limit how much of the shock wave covers it

Spec into any cleanse/root removal for the spittle and alternate between brann dispelling and you dispelling as best you can

For phase two if you’re getting hit by swirls or portals, try stopping dps and focusing on position until it ceases

Track healing vials and space them out so you’re maximising the heal over time

Feel free to pop drums and consumables to speed up p1 if you find p2 easier (I think he spends more time casting than melee but I could be wrong)

1 Like

I’m affliction so this really doesn’t apply to me, i haven’t played destruction since they ruined what was left of the gloriousness that was MoP destruction lol

Is there any data out there that shows which specs are getting it done? I have friends and guildies that stopped trying with their mains so they can level and gear one of the easier specs for the fight, that in it of itself tells me that it isn’t balanced very well.

Just to be clear, I’m not whining about it or asking for it to be nerfed or anything, it just isn’t for me, i have done all of the other Delve achievements (all 11’s with lives left was a fun challenge), but i feel like the ? fight was awful enough for me at lower gear levels, i got it done, but i remember thinking that i want no part of attempting an amped up version of it lol