This morning in my first AV they did it again and we took out the paladin but they downed Drek before the warmasters even had time to reset. So even focusing the paladin is an unsure way of stopping them from doing this. Its a blatant exploit and they are literally doing this in an organized fashion. Its beyond ridiculous at this point.
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no. you follow the gate and jump over the low spot just b4 the waterfall, inside. from there, you strafe left and spam jump the right side of the waterfall to land on the flat top of the waterfall. from there, you go up and right to where RH guards are.
If you read through the thread so far you will see that we have already established that this is an exploit. They arenât simply kiting an npc. They are forcing the npcs to repath giving the alliance an objective free advantage at winning the game in 7 minutes. Even if you kill the paladin doing this Drek is dead before the warmasters fully reset. The alliance are completely ignoring the objectives linked to the warmasters yet are still being able to win a game by completely ignoring the very objectives youâre supposed to do to remove the warmasters from their intended purpose. This is an exploit through and through.
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Your starting point is closer to Vann than the Alliance starting cave is to Drek. You can hop up the back way and go behind the stables (which the group in the video didnât do) and straight to Vannâs room.
Where are you getting 6 minutes from? Everyone could be there and pulling in 3 minutes.
I already posted this:
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Now that was fast and impressive. Not sure how much honor that was worth and how long the cue time was, but definitely impressive.
Like Horde ignoring Marshals? Like that, you mean?
This was in Vanilla. It was in TBC. Blizzard knew about it and didnât care. It wasnât until much later that they made changes:
Among the coming changes:
- NPC issues, including solo-pulling Vandar Stormpike and general weirdness with the Horde warmasters will be addressed.
- Characters will not respawn in either tunnel unless all other graveyards are gone.
- AFK characters can be clicked on via the zone map. Once enough players have done this, a timer debuff will appear, while the character still gets honor for just being in the zone. Once itâs counted down to zero, itâs replaced with a debuff that halts all honor gain until they begin fighting again.
- The majority of the honor gains will be shifted from the beginning of the match to the end.
- Groups will again be able to queue up for the zone.
- The destructible buildings and siege weapons coming in Wrath of the Lich King PvP may also be added to Alterac Valley.
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Was in vanilla and both sides can do it.
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Ok, and this is 2020 where an exploit the alliance can and is doing is being done on an excessive level. The horde CAN do it to marshals, but honestly how often do you see it. As stated several times already most AVs end in 7 minutes before horde even make it to the top of the map. The horde possibility of exploiting anything in AV just simply isnât happening and even if it has or is, certainly not on the scale its happening on the alliance side. If this was happening once every 5-10 games I probably wouldnât have even took the time to mention it here but this is happening literally almost every single game for awhile now. I donât care what the horde can do. I care about what is happening right now and what is happening is the alliance is exploiting the warmasters like crazy. Even if horde wanted to try to do the same to the marshals we canât even get there in time to do it. The alliance are simply organizing this much better than the horde seem to care to. Besides, I wouldnât approve of it either way. An exploit is an exploit and the game should be fair for everyone. Iâm not taking sides here because Iâm horde and the alliance are winning. Iâm bringing to light something that is clearly being exploited excessively.
Kiting is exploiting? I think 10âs of thousands of mages will disagree with you on that
You keep using the word exploit and I donât think you know what it means.
Any mage or hunter can kite warmasters/marshals. Get any combination of 2 of those and youâll have 100% success chance of holding them out of the room for 2 minutes.
Horde can make it to Vann before Alliance can make it to Drek. That is a FACT.
But yaâll keep turtling at SHGY and picking off decoys at Bal and whining about Drek pulls.
Not an exploit. But feel free to open a ticket. Iâm sure you wouldnât be the first.
âNo changesâ doesnât mean we donât want Blizzard to take care of exploits that are gamebreaking, such as most of the ones listed here. Honestly, I donât even care about the Paladin thing - itâs stupid and unbeatable without 30-40 man defense (especially the ones who pop Skull of Impending Doom with Bubble). As far as the Horde bypassing the bridge⌠Sure, fix it⌠The Prospector solo pull? 90% of games someone kills the Prospector anyways. Most of my wins we kill all Marshals (or burn/defend all bunkers/towers where there are no Marshals). Itâs not gamebreaking like the Paladin thing, but sure⌠fix that too.
The biggest exploit that needs to be fixed is what Alliance are doing with queues. Specific queuing AVâs to force a game to start, then declining to flush the random queueing alliance from the queue and get their uber premade all in one game. That is the biggest problem atm.
horde:
jumping on top of the building in gadget or safe zoning in everlook clearly not an exploit l2p reroll or go back to retail.
also horde:
kiting mobs is an exploit!
heh.
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When you read a book do you read just the first few words and then give an opinion on the whole thing?
Well I think all horde players need to roll rogues that way AV would be 40 rogues vs 40 alliance. And when the alliance paladin enters to pull the boss before bubbling ambush * 40.
Well I kinda wish we could que premades because that would be a very fun surprise.
What do you want me to do contact every single horde that plays AV and tell them to take the quick route to van every game? Not gonna happen. The alliance however are still rushing Drek and getting 7 minute wins everyday all day despite the fact your scenario is a possibility for us. The problem still remains. And again, ITS NOT THE KITING! Its the what they are doing with the kiting and what it allows them to avoid that is supposed to be an objective to change that part of the game.
The waterfall pathing?
The use of bubble and consumables?
The killing of a boss that isnât leashed the other mobs?
It can just as easily be done with off tanking the marshals/war masters.
Thatâs how my premade did it, 2 OT and Zerg boss down.
How ever there was a screen shot of someone bugging the mobs and that should be fixed.
But let me ask you this, blizzard does address the issue in a later patch because they felt it was a exploit. We know this because the game has been out for 15 years and we have years of patch notes. But because they are using a early version this is not and doesnât make it a exploit now? In the spirit of the game, just play the game the way it was meant to be played.
I dont think youâre using that word like you think you are.
abusing broken leashing that was in vanilla and some how made it into classic is an abuse of an exploit. any and all alliance who participate/use it should be banned and rolled back accordingly.
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