You can buy it on your tank for marks of honor, then buy it on alts. You can’t buy the healer one though unless your main can also heal.
The issue is Pure DPS dont have that option.
Oh i know that, i was just telling him Blizz wasnt as smart as he thought.
Scroll up dingle berry I already owned up to having way way way too much faith in blizzards dumbas…ahem I mean…blizzards development team and the vaunted gray parser Gurgthock
When you’re doing 70k dps, 4k is nothing. It’s a 6% increase… Personal skill, RNG on stat procs, stars aligning and corruption will make more of a difference in DPS than that.
6-10% DPS is a significant thing. What are you on about?
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That it’s not necessary to do any of the current content, other than progression mythic raiding, which very few partake in. At 460, an entire raid could clear heroic with rank 1 primaries.
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But why is it that a multi spec class such as, Druid, Paladin, and Monk, able to do the grind once and get the essences for all 3 specs?
Specifically look at the Battle Ground essence. We didn’t have a reduced grind for the off spec essences. We had No grind for the offspec essences. Sure you could argue that it cost tokens that you had to grind from BGs to get, but honestly who would i be kidding. If you had half a brain you saved them up while doing the grind and had more then enough to buy all of the essences by the end.
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I actually agree with this… I’m a-ok with the new currency and the costs are extremely fair. But you shouldn’t be punished for your main being a pure DPS…
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You do know it’s possible to play more than one class, right? I unlocked all of my tank/dps essences on my warrior and the healing essences on my monk.
You aren’t being punished. Chances are, if you mained and ONLY played a pure DPS, then you’re probably still a pure DPS… Not their fault that you got tired of not being able to get into groups, due to DPS out numbering healers and tanks by dozens of fold.
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Not sure if this has been said yet, but would like to see it extended to all essence ranks, not just rank 3 and have to cost adjusted based on rank.
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Yes it very much is possible to play multiple classes.
It is also unfair, as hybrid classes got a reduced grind for off spec essences. While switching from a only dps class to a tank or healer, they don’t get a reduced grind.
The currency is simply that a reduced grind. And a reduced grind should be available to all alts as long as the original primary grind was completed.
To me, you’re simply arguing. “I did it so you should have to as well”
When in fact they have already done the grind on one character. That character just wasn’t eligible for the reduced cost off specs.
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What kind of logic is this? Pure dps only have to do the grind once. Using EP essences as an example, the hybrids have to do the main grind once and then do 1/3 of that grind for each off spec. So ultimately, a druid/paladin/monk would have to do the grind 1.66 times vs a pure dps doing it 1.0 times.
It’s not their fault that you mained a pure dps and then suddenly wanted to change roles due to not being able to get into groups. You’ve had EIGHT months to get all of your essences on a tank, healer and dps. It’s not their fault you chose to try to do it now and that you want it this second.
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Wait a minute. I though most were asking for essences that were already earned to be opened account wide. Now it’s essences we did not earn?
We earned them. Though, by playing pure dps classes we were forbidden to buy and learn.
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Blizzard seems to went on radio silence once again and completely ignore feedback about this new system.
However, that pure dps class now that they are swapping, needs to do the grind 2x times. instead of the 1.33 or 1.66 times.
The currency was supposed to account for the 1/3 reduced grind that offspecs did (but translated to alts), while also allowing players to do the grind in current content.
So I don’t see a reason why a player that played a pure DPS class would be required to do the full grind again.
Blizzard did put the essences behind ridiculous grinds. Grinds that I don’t want to force on returning players either.
Blizzard should just open up all essences to be purchasable via the currency. They would still not be account-wide and earned on the character that did the currency grind. That would make it friendly to returning players.
I don’t care that I did the grind on multiple characters. In fact, that is exactly why I don’t want to see others required to do it to get the good essences as the correct essences do make that much of a difference.
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Most players did more runs than it required to get essences for all roles anyway (be it hybrid or pure dps player) when that raid was current… I personally did 7 full heroic and 7 full mythic eternal palace runs on my main hunter. But pure DPS were unable to loot items for additional roles, while those hybrids were… This is unfair and should be fixed.
Plus they already unlocked essences for all roles from Nazjatar/Mechagone rep essences, so I don’t see a problem unlocking essences from other sources (BG/M+/EP/Uldum and Vale rep) as well.
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Exactly my point.
People against making it spec agnostic are more saying “HA, sucks to be you”
Except you know, that’s not true.
- The battleground essence is character wide and unlocks immediately.
- The Eternal Palace and M+ Essences Hybrids gained passively after their main spec just by continuing to run it.
- The Horrific Visions Essence was gained passively as well. My friend already has all 3.
- The daily assault essences were gained passively. It takes is 9 weeks for all 3. SHOCKER, it’s been over 9 weeks.
- The Nyalotha Essence is the same, hybrids will get all 3 passively as they keep doing the raid.
For these 6 essences, they’re all either immediately available or unlocked PASSIVELY just from said hybrid main doing the same content.
You are a druid. Do not tell Pure DPS we are not being punished, because we are.
Yes, that’s one of the exceptions.
Yes, but you had to continue to run the zone. That means it’s not passive, it’s active.
Not gained passively, it’s actively gained. You have to continue to run the the content to gain them.
Again, you seem to not understand the difference between active and passive. If you’re a pure DPS, you get your essence in three weeks. This applies to rogue, mage, hunter and warlock. If you’re a dps/healer class or a tank/dps class, you gain your side spec in an extra week. If you’re a druid, monk or paladin, you gain all three specs in 5 weeks.
Again, not passive, but active. A lot of people run the raid a few times and then never go back again. I’m already starting to do that with alts because there’s nothing to gain from heroic anymore and I’m not doing mythic on them.
You’re not. You chose to be a pure dps and should have seen something like this coming. This is only an issue for 1/3 of the classes. Deal with it. It’s not their fault you finally decide that you want to play a real role, due to not being able to find groups, which is due to there being an insane number of dps’ers compared to tanks and healers.
You chose to ONLY play a class that had no option to heal or tank, for over eight months (if you’re only looking at EP essences). I guess it pays to play a class/spec that actually has an option to be somewhat responsible, other than dodging the occasional bad and mashing whatever button lights up on their rotation addon.
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