Please extend Account Wide Essences to Other Roles for the Remaining Ones

TLDR; The new system ONLY unlocks the specific essences you have unlocked on your main. So if you main a pure dps, you have to do the same exact M+, Eternal Palace, 30k Honor, Nyalotha, Horrific Visions, and N’zoth Assault grind AGAIN on a hybrid class capable of getting heal/tank essences.

This is overly punishing to people who mained a pure DPS during the time alts were near impossible to play, as well as being counter productive to the fact this system is supposed to let us grind current content to skip grinds we already did once. Please fix this.


Title. First, thank you for this change. A week an essence is slightly annoying but acceptable. Plus, if you spam battlegrounds and win it looks like you can technically get more?

Anyway, For anyone who hasn’t paid attention, the account-wide essences will only unlock That Specific Role’s rank 3 you’ve already unlocked, with the exception of Mechagon/Nazjatar.

So if you main a pure DPS like me? You’re screwed when it comes to the M+ Essence, the Battleground Honor Essence, and The Eternal Palace Essence. You’ll have to re-do the entire grind over again on a character that has access to healer/tank, get the essence on them, then you can get it on alts. Mechagon/Nazjatar is the exception and what they need to do for these 3. This includes the 8.3 essences, so have fun with a massive horrific vision grind on an alt, you pure DPS!

No one wants to grind 30,000 Honor Through BGs on ANOTHER character, or try to find the SUPER RARE Eternal Palace PuG (otherwise it’s 6 MONTHS of LFR), or try to find M+10 groups with barely any essences on an alt with less gear. This also includes a ~10 month Nyalotha LFR grind, and ~1.5 months of Horrific Visions.

Please make us able to buy any role’s essence on the associated toon if we have rank 3 of any of them on another, like you’re doing with Mechagon/Nazjatar.

Otherwise, you are punishing people who play pure DPS and going against the entire philosophy of this system.

The entire point of this change was to let us do current content to unlock the essences. Yes, M+ and BGs are technically current content, but the grind isn’t. On top of this, someone who mains a tank/heal/dps hybrid like Paladin or Druid will have access to all 3 already, because they naturally gained enough M+ items to unlock for every role since 8.2, and unlocking the BG achievement automatically unlocks the ability to buy all 3 for them.

To add further, Eternal Palace is no longer a current raid and as such, making us go back on alts is silly, the entire point of this is to avoid that. (For anyone curious, I dont even have rank 3 of this because of how ridiculous the grind is for people who don’t raid normal+ regularly, but this change would make me more motivated to grind it out. Hopefully with an increased drop rate :confused: )

So please, make the role specific essences available on alts if you own at least one of them.

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Thanks, I think I posted 2 or 3 times about that in the original post. I posted 2 times in this new one.

“~The essence must be learned, unless it’s the mechagon/nazjatar rep, that’ll be unlocked for all roles.~”

Completely unfair to DPS only classes that had no opportunity to even learn the essences for the other roles.

Edit: I’m more upset about the Battleground Honor essences, for the EP essences you had to collect for each rank for each role (if I remember correctly from doing it on my DH). But I ground out Blood of the Enemy on my hunter, now my tanking alt will not be able to benefit from this new system simply because my Hunter cannot purchase and learn Sphere of Suppression.

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I would like to see an option for unlocked essences. At a higher price. For example if you did not unlock it maybe 3-5 times the price as those you havent. That way you have options to get the essences from stuff you like doing eventually. So it’s still progression and you can get access to bis stuff but it will take more time.

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Is there a tank and healer equivalent of Blood of the Enemy? If so I betcha 500k gold if you already met the dps requirements they will be available for purchase on alts for tanks and healers…just like how they’ll work for mechagon and nazjatar essences

I guess we will find out tomorrow.

Yes there is. And no, they made it clear you need the specific role’s essence on a toon to purchase it, Mechagon/Nazjatar are excluded.

So the Eternal Palace, 30k Honor, and M+ Essences will all have to be obtained on a particular role before you can learn it on other toons.

Same with the 8.3 essences, if they’re included in what can be purchased.

After reading all that:

"-Father, is it over ?
-At long last. No whining lasts forever my son."

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An essence vendor would be wonderful. That way players could enjoy playing the content enjoy playing. I use to enjoy playing some alts in just PvP. With the way everything is now I’ll never play them at all.

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Did each of those essences also earn you an achievement for reaching whatever requirement neccessary? If so I betcha it’s gonna be available for ya for the other roles :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I just reread through the explanation on purchasing new essences, and nowhere did I see if your purely DPS you can’t get tank/heal spec on another character. My understanding is if you’ve unlocked an essence attached to a tank or heal spec…You will be able to purchase that essence

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The achievement isn’t account wide, sadly.

The essence is the thing being the object.
Many essences serve to different kinds of spec.
Even on the same character.

People are just reaching.

Read the part about Mechagon/Nazjatar. The fact they mention ONLY those essences don’t require the specific essence tells us the others do.

Here, I’ll even find the quote FOR you:

They specifically mention that a specific essence has to be obtained, but Mechagon/Nazjatar will be available if any of the reputation essences have been obtained.

What does this mean? That the other essences will not unlock like this.

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Listen…I know blizzard has proven time and time again how much they really don’t think things through before adding them…the nyalotha raid skip being the most recent example…they aren’t going to be dumb enough to still leave the tank and healer essences locked away when you’ve already earned the dps equivalent of them…you’ll see…trust me my fellow hunter.

I mean … I could very well be wrong.

It doesn’t make any sense what so ever for them to not allow you to purchase the essences under whichever umbrella you choose for a specific spec OTHER than dps. As an example my warlock has almost everything unlocked so my monk dps is good, but you should be able to purchase tank and heal essences which in theory will give the game much more appeal to people who want to play all 3 dps heals and tank on separate toons

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Exactly!!!

I think people are reading too far in between the lines. I do see how it can be taken that way. But I think it’s going to work out well for everyone!

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Well, I’ll be sure to get this thread back up tomorrow when it’s proven. Lol. You have a LOT of faith in Blizzard in this when they didnt even want account wide essences in the first.

If they changed their mind and add them, then I’ll let the thread die.

So… was it what you thought?

It’s exactly how we thought. I cannot purchase Rank 3 Sphere of Suppression on my Tank alt. My Main has rank 3 Blood of the Enemy learned, but has no tank spec to be able to learn Sphere of Suppression. So they just screwed us who play on role limited classes. Thanks, exactly what I wanted.

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I’m sure the implementation of this was last minute. Give it a week or two and I bet they fix it. For pure dps classes it doesn’t sound like it’s working as intended. My prot pally was my
Main through most of the expac but was lazy and wasn’t able to unlock apt of the essences outside of the most important for me. My warlock on the other hand has them all lol… so dps I’m good lol