PLEASE don't try and transform WoW like you did with OW

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Man. After playing the new OW mode (which seems it might be the new direction) do NOT try and change WoW. Seeing the new OW mode was the first time I have seen Blizzard scared. Making OW a 3rd person shooter with ability upgrades etc… wow. Maybe go back to OW 1 which we loved.

Anyways, my point is, WoW has shown to still be the top mmo. Still playing better than FFXIV. So I just hope they stick the same mmo path with WoW. WoW easily has the best 5 man dungeons, best raids, etc.

I will say though, I would like to see WoW bring in some of the minor things some of the new mmos bring like New World, Throne & Liberty etc. They use WoW ideas and WoW has used other mmos in the past so why not use some of these new ideas.

BUT WoW still dominates in the Raids. Hands down. No clue why some of these new mmos dont make raids. New World finally made one but only a 3 boss raid. It is fun but WoW still rocks.

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I think Housing is a step in this direction. I wonder what it will mean for the social aspect of the game.

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WoW has transformed into a lobby based game slowly over time. You can literally sit in a town all day and never move and level your character in dungeons and raids that you never have to go to and never bother doing any quests. People do the other stuff because it is entertaining but… give it an expansion and we will be going into delves the same way we go into lfr and dungeon finder.

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As long as you use an allied race. If you start at level 1 you can’t queue for anything.:sweat_smile:

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So you’re saying that you want to form every single one of your own groups and actually travel to every dungeon/raid entrance?

Should have labeled that a “hot take”

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“Yes, we do.”
-Entire classic community

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What? I don’t think I wrote what you think I wrote.

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Yeah, and that’s why I am glad you guys are over there. I do not find afking flight paths to an instance entrance and spamming chat channels for group members to be any more engaging than clicking a button and actually doing the content I want to.

Well, you presented the classic “lobby game bad” argument, so I took it for what it is.

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I did? I think you read way more into what I said than what I said. Go read it again, this time without the bias or assuming I am saying something is bad. It might elucidate what was written vs what you think was written.

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Actually I’m only one of “those guys” when a permanent WotLK server is around. (Maybe BC too, in which case epic flying is a nice middle ground).

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How so? Think friends will clean their BN list and shutter themselves in with an escape hatch to their delves? :slightly_smiling_face:

I’m thinking it’s going to pull a lot of people out of the pillar activities at first. Some will get lost in their houses for sure and never be seen again.

Even with a solid group of discord servers, it will draw the focus of many and the ire of others. Change has that effect. Housing is a big change that’s coming. Are we prepared??

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Having come from FFXIV, people loved housing there. It took a while but made some magnificent places. Interested if it kicks off as much interest here.

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progging 2 tiers of heroic and a few mythic bosses has made me realized how feeble minded the average wow raider is when people choke on a fight like one-armed bandit or muggzy (at least on hc mode) that are essentially the same 3-4 mechanics looped for about 8-9 minutes (6-7 when you’re geared and know how to press buttons).

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Too late it has already been transformed.

The last bit of RP was completely destroyed with the introduction of Warbands.

You are no longer playing character like you do in a RPG, you are playing an account.

Even player housing, a feature that is traditionally a big deal for RP, is per account, not character.

So, alas, your warning comes too late to save its heart and soul. Instead you are left with the shallow and the hollow.

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Classic community is for the most part not the retail’s target audience. It’s irrelevant what they like or dislike, retails gives them the eebie jeebies because it’s not the game they played when they still had all their hair and their parents weren’t disappointed in them.

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Hate to break it to you but they already announced player housing.

Seems like a change to me.

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I can very much assure you this won’t happen because they are two very different genres of gaming. One is a Hero Shooter the other is an MMORPG.

In some ways, but nobody really cares. They just boast numbers to flex their epeen.

It requires TONS OF DEVELOPMENT. Maps, NPCs, NPC abilites, NPC health pools and resources… and most importantly… it needs a dedicated fanbase. Without a dedicated fanbase, its essentially building an expensive car with no drivers. Bad for business.

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I don’t get how people can say this with a straight face.

Compared to MoP where everything of value is stuck in dungeons and you really do just sit at the shrine all days - except to do dailies where you wander around a small area - waiting for the queue to pop.

Today WQ at least get you out and about. Delves require you to travel to the entrance. There are also more rares and treasure that can be repeatedly killed/looted all over the world.

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WoD might have been the pinnacle of the lobby.

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Easy, if you are level 10 and you don’t care about WQ or Delves you can pretty much sit in the city and never leave. I don’t think that is a hot take to say. I am sure that no one is doing it, but it is possible. You can level and gear without ever leaving. That doesn’t mean it is bad, there are plenty of people who just want to do that and that is cool by me. I want WoW to support everyone’s play style.