Why bother spending 10 seconds or so looking at somebody’s gear when I can have an addon scan the information pane before it has completed rendering, and spit out a number I can look at and then go about my business?
“The Community” may not like it, but “The community” isn’t the one organizing the raid/group, they’re simply participants. The organizers are going to use whatever makes their life easier. You’re dreaming if you don’t think such tools are not going to be widely used.
That genie left the bottle years ago, much like Blizzard’s example with Nef in BWL, the same thing applies for AddOns.
You’re not dealing with a new game where people are still trying to figure how this whole addon development process even works. You’re dealing with a game that has seen 15 years of addon development and experience in its rear-view. The AddOn Devs are not simply going to forget how to do things because you(or large numbers of other players) don’t like it.
Likewise, many of those addons are going to be nearly impossible for Blizzard to break without also crippling a number of addons that players DO love, rather than love to hate.
It probably won’t be “gearscore” base on ilvl, it’ll likely be more like “sim-score” or “stat-score” for the player overall. There are other ways to generate a proxy-number to use in place of average item level. It just requires some(/many) additional lines of code to enable the (class/role specific) math to happen.
No, we had CTRaid bars. I was there, it was basically mandatory for raid healers. Even if the raid didn’t require it, most healers were using it, even in UBRS, because it was the best/only option available at the time.
We’re talking really early in the days of raiding. There was a period where CTraid was the only (widely known) option to exist for raid frames.
As Vanilla progressed, other options became available, including one in the default UI. But it remains valid that CTRaid was the first one to be widely known.
You act like people aren’t going to find another way to be elitists or be bullies.
The same thing happens on the internet and yet here you are. I don’t see you boycotting the internet. You’re still using something that people use to bully or use to be elitists.
I’m a casual. You really need to get your head out of stigmas man.
I’m an objective based player. If something doesn’t net me an upgrade or some sort of tangible item then I don’t do that in game. There are exceptions to this like helping a guildie or friend but most of the time i focus on something I want.
What I don’t want is to spend an entire week or weekend trying to clear a raid because someone doesn’t want to download a simple addon. You’re being selfish and essentially willing to waste 39 other people’s time because of something minor.
It’s an addon. If you’re so frightened of an addon then you have a lot of issues to work out man.
I would argue that helping a guildie or friend helps you personally because it improves your friendship points or is an investment to help you in the future.
But classic had something much better than Raider io. It had community. When someone ninja’s an item, afk’s in a dungeon, or is a terribad, you post on the realm forums and /popcorn
I should’ve made my post more transparent. I was talking about the damage and threat meter addons. That’s my bad.
I don’t care for raider io but I use it in retail wow. I haven’t really touched retail wow in about a month except to level a hunter.
Raider io is a double edged sword. It helps people to quickly get an idea of someone’s ability to clear a mythic+ on time and shows their progress on current and past raid encounters. I definitely see where this is useful.
I can also see how this can be abused as well.
The thing is, if you’re getting denied due to your io score then you need to either find people to do them regularly with or step up your game. If you can’t do either of those things then start forming your own groups.