Please don’t remove Hunter pets

So you want to remove pets from Marksmanship so people can’t perform skips? Are you serious

Which is why you don’t do the current iteration of the change, and instead do the decoupling of the pets abilities when taking the minor ability of Lone Wolf.

You are correct, if they attempted the decouple with the current way they are going it would be a mess.

Could potentially, as Rankin states below, also include some of those improvements as a Hero Tree. Potentially making Lone Wolf its own Hero Tree. So it would go away from being a minor talent choice, to being a Hero tree.

So bake that part into Lone Wolf. Aimed Shot only gets Mortal Wounds if you don’t have a pet out. That’s why one of the alternatives I’ve offered is a hero track just for petless Hunters. That way it’s completely optional and gives more room to balance around not having a pet.

Ferocity pets also give leech, which is pretty useful in it’s own right.

It’s already balanced against pet damage, why would they need to change anything?

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And I provided rebuttal solutions. I’m not a game designer, but I can tell you that there are definitely ways for blizzard to do it if they put their mind to it!

You didn’t adress a single point I made.

because it makes maintaining the spec going forward much more convoluted and they likely want to avoid that

Can you explain to me how disabling the pet summon (with lone wolf) wouldn’t solve double dipping issues

Might be a shock considering your massive ratio, but most people don’t care about whatever the top percent of people do.

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I’m discussing the changes that will occur and why they make keeping pets a nightmare. I won’t entertain a “what if we do a completely different design”, that’s not in the table. Either you just want to keep pets despite the changes, or you want to keep the entire current design. I won’t discuss the later, only the former.

Why do you think we care what world questers do?

Why wouldn’t you want to discuss a different direction? So its either black, or its white?

Seems, from that statement alone, that you’re here to for contention, and contention only then.

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The PTR hasn’t even started. The “table” hasn’t even really been set yet.

Okay you’re a professional troll. You have to be. There’s no way you said this statement in response to her when the literal rework coming in 11.1 is “a completely different design” on its own. But that’s the design you like and care about so anything we say is hogwash to you.

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Ah, you’re a troll. I get it.

And you are not a top percenter lol, quit flattering yourself.

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What are you even on about?

There are several abilities and talents now related to that. It’s incredibly janky to disable all of them when you summon a pet. You open the possibility of completely skipping talents like the Tenacious/Cunning choice by just keeping a pet because the pet makes them useless.

Not as good as having Bloodlust, pulling a Tenacity pet for higher HP/instant heal CD, and speccing into Cunning to get increased movement speed plus root removal.

Because the new kit is made without pets in mind, so there will be need for rebalance.

Primalmatter girl you literally have the bully’s sidekick vibes going on queen.

What a weird, passive aggressive and mildly sexist thing to say…

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I am discussing the official rework.

I won’t discuss dreaming reworks from people who do not even care about class design.

Well at least you’ve made me laugh out loud a few times. I give you that.