The new iteration of MM is still aligned with that. You still have an animal with you, it’s just not implemented in the way it has historically been included.
There’s nothing wrong with having a ranger class but it will never happen without MM having to be gutted immensely. This is a decent compromise.
That would require him to do content he doesnt do to understand it.
That’s the irony of it, you don’'t need it, but you want it, and they are changing the spec to support that, so its pretty BS to complain about people “not needing” but “wanting” to have a pet.
Again, im all up for the changes, and im fine with petless MM being better and more optimal, but the option for the pet, for those who want should be there still, let the noobs, pvpers and casuals play the game the way they want
That’s not how game design works. Blizzard has a clear vision for what they want MM to be moving forward, and having a pet is disruptive to that vision. You can’t just tell them to keep it in. There might not be capacity with the current design framework for them to keep it in.
You are being completely dishonest.
If you stack all non hero classes and the hunter is capable of hero from bringing out their pet, why wouldn’t they do so?
So you are arguing they willingly handicap themselves to not use a pet.
beyond hero, a pet brings nothing to group content.
Tbh I can’t believe they are trying to compare a nonessential to an essential.
It’s a completely disingenuous take.
That’s how the game works and have worked for ten years, what the hell are you talking about?
Blizzard with clear vision HAHAHA
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I can do that, i’ve being doing for a few days by now.
Yeah no, i call bs on that
I can understand how you reach this comparison but I don’t think it works.
You want the pet for content you’ll never need it in, strictly speaking. Lust, on the other hand, is going to be a deciding factor even in mid range keys. They’re not going to be looking for a pet class, but they may be looking for a lust class.
Dude I think the world is ending. We both agree on something!
Hope your holiday was well!
They sound like the people crying that some company changed its website and they ask them why not keep the old version up.
Supporting legacy junk is a major development drag.
It will be great to ditch the dead weight and get a real sharpshooter spec
Well, im using your dishonest arguments, so of course it looks dishonest.
Do better, so you don’t get your bs flipped on you.
Incorrect, i need the pet to do the content i want. Especially in PVP to spin flags, keep enemies in combat, attack while stunned/sapped etc.
Other people will need for other reasons.
What you are trying to do is decide, which content is valid or not, based on bias, to you, the only valid content, that their needs are valid are M+ 
Okay, let me rephrase that since you clearly didn’t understand anything at all:
Blizzard is completely rehauling MM to fit a new vision. Obviously, pets don’t fit in that vision and new framework. Therefore, pets are not being included.
Do I need to spoonfeed it to you more, or do you understand now?
Okay, then continue to whine about it. Maybe take a look at your survival hunter counterparts that have been dying on the “BRING BACK RANGED” hill for years. See how far they’ve gotten with it lmao
This is disingenuous after what you told me here;
He will continue repeating the same thing till he goes to bed.
Its so bad I wont even engage with him
No, it isn’t but I’m sure you will enjoy it.
Probably. I’ve been begging Blizzard for a dedicated bowman spec for well over a decade now. I’m pumped lmao
I was asking for a gunner class as well, just not for hunters. Mostly, I wanted tinkers.
What disingenuous? are you going desperate?
If you say you “need” the lust then im saying i “need” the pet in other content;
In reality we dont need do to anything, we dont even need to play the game, we want it, but we are going for the royal “need” - as established - as we need then to do X content, already knowing that.
You mean make a new argument because the first one you made was actually bad, because it was a lie, ok.
Except the part they are introducing a fake Pet, and further making the fake bird as integral part of the vision and framework as a pet that you don’t interact or command.
And you can continue to whine about people whining, its the cycle of the forums 
They tried to remove pets from MM twice now and tfailed, so yeah im more hopeful in this case 
You can’t say lust is a want but the ability to, quote,
is a need, because they occupy the same value space. Something the class brings that is of limited availability.
So you’re ignoring that I was willing to meet you on the ‘want’ idea, because you realized it wasn’t fitting your narrative?
Correct, so we need to find the defining features we’re clawing at when we use the words.
I have done so. You have not, you simply keep using “want” and “need” nebulously.
I have condemned Snozay more than once for some of his arguments, this does not mean I think everyone he was arguing with is right.
Right, and I said that’s never going to happen without them having to gut the spec that’s obviously the dedicated ranger spec for hunters.
Blizzard already gutted a spec once in 2016 when they introduced demon hunters: Demonology warlocks. It was such a travesty that demolocks were rendered obsolete for the entire expansion and didn’t really hit their stride again until DF.
If Blizzard is to introduce a ranger class, they have to gut MM to make room for it. Again, this is a decent compromise, and one that’s grounded in reality.
No, it is just bad planning, just like what they did to us locks. Doesn’t make it good nor something I will ever go for. I will always say, make it work in lore and class. Do not take away or just play a “Falcon” to “kinda” fit the theme.
Blizzard is just lazy at this point of time, which kinda shows with OW and how marvel rivals are just stomping on them because of it.
I still like wow, don’t get it twisted, but I can also see they’re creatively bankrupt with undermine being the most creative they have been in a long long long time. Especially with the Drive mechanic.
I do love skyriding but that is jsut a rip off guild wars flying.