Add a 3-5% damage debuff to the hunter for having it out.
Or keep lone wolf as it is.
Many of us have been playing this class for years or decades (I have been playing since release in 2004) with this hunter as my first and main character. And my pet has been with me since day 1 and been there for every event and achievement I’ve had along the way.
Taking away the pet might as well be entirely removing the class for me and for many others.
Don’t tell me to play BM or SV. BM is nowhere near as engaging of gameplay for me. I’ve tried and do not have any fun playing BM. Bestial Wrath, barbed shot, kill command, repeat and weave in some cooldowns…. Boring. And I have a pally if I want to melee.
I enjoy playing MM. i did not like Sentinel Owl as a talent. Only used it as a heroic spec because it was all passives until you fixed Dark Ranger, which has a dire beast still. And not interested in some eagle thing doing whatever.
I want to keep my pet as MM and enjoy another 20 years of WoW like Chris said at Blizzcon last year. This makes me want to call it a career if it goes through.
I do not want to give up pets my MM hunter had for 20 years. Leave MM the option to have their pets and stop catering to the .001 percent of elitists who want everyone to play their way. Those people won’t suffer if we run around with a pet out like we always have.
It doesn’t thematically make sense for a marksman to have to aim around their oversized pet every time they want to hit a small target. Its presence is literally counter-intuitive.
Having a buffed bloodlust with no need to have a pet out to do it is a win.
Having a very much buffed MS effect, without a pet being required is a win.
Having 0 pathing, CC, or death related delays using intimidation is a win.
I love what they announced so far for 11.1 MM, but I don’t need the traditional pet scraped. Taking the utility and putting it on the hunter is great. If the pet damage is reduced enough folks can opt to use it or not and it can be left as a preference. Personally I’m sick of spending GCDs healing, resurrecting, instructing, and removing CC from my pet, but I know some people would be real happy if the pet was there for moral support and taunting. Having a pet that can tank a few hits is an asset.
BM ostensibly also has to aim around its pets, and survival has explosives out the wazoo despite having a pet. “it doesn’t make sense” seems a little flimsy here
Funny that people crying that their reason for not having pets is ‘realism’ are not freaking out over Surv spec being some sort of mad bombers. The bombs are fun, but other than a hillbilly throwing dynamite into a lake ‘fishing’, there is not much evidence of hunters using explosives. How, realistically would they not blow up their own pets? MM was just fine for 20 years with pets and could be more supported as a single pet ranged hunter spec and Blizzard could stop hijacking MM for a dark ranger spec that would be far better as a separate 4th spec/class that could be filled with Sylvanas bs for all the fanboys who lust after undead psycho rangers. MM hunters who are not her fans never asked for their spec to be twisted into the nonsense they are trying to so for the 3rd time since Legion.
People who say SV is garbage tend to have 2 things in common: incredibly dramatic personalities and have never actually played SV since its rework. ever since DF (especially since TWW) I’ve seen plenty of “ranged only” hunters actually try SV since it’s the best performing and they all tend to say they should have tried it earlier.
Please stop, give the devs a chance and lets test the new changes when the PTR comes out, before we make 50 threads having a whinge.
It’s time to move forward. Thematically pets with MM doesn’t really work anymore and hasn’t since Legion, 95% of MM players have used Lone Wolf for years myself included.
If you are that attached to your pixel pets then go play BM, adapt. Changes are good and MM players have been asking for them for a long time, and these changes coming in 11.1 look fantastic.
They are removing a very crucial skill of the toolkit that is part of the gameplay of the class and spec for 20 years, that will directly affect and maim the way we play the game.
They tried twice and they had to revert twice, this should not even be considered after two failed attempts.
]Thats why they are forcing us to thematically have an eagle that we cant control and interact?
Because it was busted OP, you cant prove it was because they wanted it
I’ve seen you using this in a few threads now but never actually provide an intelligent response. What I and others have also said is completely valid, Hunters have 2 other specs that use pets. If you are THAT dead set on needing a pet in order for your class to feel playable I think it almost becomes a skill issue.
I haven’t used or needed a pet as MM for years, the spec plays completely fine without it.
Why would you expect an intelligence response after an clowny statement? Besides, i did gave you reasons why pet is important, you just brushed of like it was nothing
But i will bite, just to show how yours is not just invalid but also insensitive:
The specs play completely different from one and another, so if you like one doesn’t mean you will like or enjoy the other
If people wanted to play BM they would already be playing BM
If they are not playing BM already is because they don’t want to play BM
Is moronic to tell other players to play another spec because they like the pet, when all three specs had pets for the 20 years they were in the game
Its also hypocritical to tell players play another spec if they want the pet they used to have for 20 years, when the same people complaining that MM had to summon the pet to lust didn’t went to play another spec/class who did not have pet.
That’s sounds like a totally you problem
Don’t try to force your experiences and way of play on others, you would not like if blizz removed lone wolf entirely and forced everyone to use pet, so lets stop the hypocrisy here.
No you didn’t…you just said “They are removing a very crucial skill of the toolkit”, what skill?, what are you talking about?
Exactly…they play differently from one another, one uses a pet and now one DOESN’T!
There’s nothing moronic about encouraging people to adapt to a new way of playing when the spec has become stale. 20 years…you said it yourself, 20 bloody years of the same thing and finally the devs are trying something new.
The Hunters crying about having to summon a pet just for lust, do not represent the entire Hunter community. As a PvPer I couldn’t give a tear about that particular issue, and franky that one example is overplayed at this point.
It’s not a problem, and I never said it was. Not using a pet as MM is amazing for me, and is the main reason I decided to finally make a Hunter a few years ago knowing I could play petless, as personally I hate pets in video games.
Do you not read over what you type before you post? Do you actually not see the irony in what you just said.
By complaining about pet removal and advocating for the developers to 180 their decision to remove them you are effectively forcing your experiences and “way of play” on others yourself…you absolute turkey.
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