first off nobody was equal footing. the earlier you got it the better your skill obviously was. by the end of the xpac this was 100% a loot pinata. seems like its special to you cause you went from a bad player to getting some skills and have tied this weapon look to feeling like your better at the game
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You need to work on your reading comprehension. I am not talking about the mage tower, challenge modes were 100% normalized.
Why? You’re dictating to other people that what they have shouldn’t be exclusive. “Rules for thee and not for me” just makes you look goofy.
if you dont say challenge mode or cm to specify that your talking about that specificly im gonna assume your talking about mage tower skins like this thread is about. maybe if you had any conversational skills you would pick that up. challenge modes did have skill yea but that is 100% a easy thing to replicate as they pretty much did that for the mage tower so if u can get it then you could get it now even if they changed it to current dungeons
Bring them back. Please for the sake of rage threads of people screaming about “slaps in the face” bring them back.
Realistically they should have left them in. Them and the ability to earn Challenge Mode transmogs. They’ve shown they have the ability to lower your level and your ilvl, so make it appropriately difficult and bring them back.
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Trying to attack someone’s personal skill for no reason other than you want something is quite negative. And irrelevant. The important part of the discussion is Blizzard has outright said that the mage tower was a time sensitive challenge. Elite mogs are time sensitive rewards. KSM is a time sensitive achievement. So on and so forth.
It is irrelevant what someone wants to happen. These are stipulations set forth by Blizzard. You can go back and get 95% of this game whenever you want. It’s okay that people who enjoy time limited things have something of their own that fits within a certain criteria. In the case of PvP’ers, it’s all we have. We get very little in the way of new content. So we have seasonal trophies instead.
Ask for new, interesting, and challenging rewards. Things people can be proud of. But leave things which are retired in the past where they belong. I wear my elite set. I wear my tabard. I wear my duelist weapon appearances, and duelist enchants. Because I earned them, I am proud of them and they aren’t coming back. And that makes me pleased. It is the nature of enjoying a trophy.
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The mage tower didn’t meet the definition of FOMO. Stop substituting your shallow concept of what the buzz word stands for, for the actual business tool of FOMO and the psychology behind its usage.
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Going to play devils advocate for a moment because a hilarious thought came to mind:
What if they brought things back but made it insane-mode hard? “Here you go, you can earn this stuff now, but you might as well be a RWF player if you want any chance at winning”? The thought of that is hilarious.
You know for a fact the forums would burn down if they did that more than simply not bringing them back.
You originally quoted my challenge mode paragraph so I figured that is what you were talking about as well. I do agree with the mage tower to an extent because it was heavily gear dependent, but the principle stays the same. People who wanted it had the opportunity to get it, the main problem is new players don’t have something equally cool to get and Blizzard is firm on the stance of not bringing anything back.
That’s a subjective, not a fact. Stop it.
im not attacking his personal skills. im just pointing out that unlike how he said its difficult it wasnt at all by the end of the xpac. not a single thing outside of the challenge mode from mop and wod required any skill what so ever. good for you that the trophy feels special. i couldnt care less about the trophy. lets say every single person used the exact same limited time not in the game anymore transmog as me. it still wouldnt feel any less special because i got what i wanted and i can use it how i want. also if you really need something in this case pvp to feel special than your probably doing something wrong since the achievement is there for you to feel special. i can understand for stuff like the wod s1 elite set because that was its own look but 99% of the pvp sets and elite sets are just recolor of tier sets/mythic raiding set so it cant be special
no ill give him that. bfa had nothing and sl had the return of mage tower but were given a recolor of a armor set. still nothing uniquely special for them to feel better about themself for getting when others didnt like the rest of us
You can get cool looking sets, but there is not a current “challenge set” or “challenge weapon” that is time limited, just mounts and titles unless you PvP. For MoP, WoD, and Legion there were opportunities like this. I don’t know why Blizzard got rid of them.
I love this argument because it’s nonsense. If you were lucky enough with rng you could maybe meet the dps marks easier but it didn’t substitute for knowing mechanics unless you got specific legendaries. Or played one of the cheese specs since the tower wasn’t normalized. Stop acting like it was a freebie, it wasn’t. If it was, more than 11% of players would have gotten it on every spec.
i went into 70% of the mage tower skins blind and just winged it. especially so for mages which i am by far the worst on compared to anyone. like its really that bad and i still did it in under 5 attempts without any research or skill in the case of mage. it was 100% a freebee if i can do it on a mage
And you’d be very wrong. Elite mogs from Cataclysm all the way till WoD season 2 were their own look and not copies of mythic sets at all. That change happened during WoD because Blizzard got lazy.
My elite set that I always wear? I love. And I’m glad it’s a trophy. And that’s all that matters. To say no other challenging content in this game requires any form of skill though is incredibly uninformed.
Were mage towers much easier during Antorus? Yes. But challenge modes? Pushing duelist? Mythic raiding (which should have its own form of time sensitive rewards)? These things are, and can be challenging.
It’s not subjective at all, he’s right. I chase down challenging time sensitive content like it’s my job with the exception of WoD CM’s. Does that mean I, who have gotten all 36 mage towers, elite mogs, tabards, enchants, MoP CM’s, all of that – does that mean I should get another shot at WoD CM’s? No. It means I should hope for more challenging and interesting content that awards trophies going forward. BFA had nothing other than the introduction of the first KSM mount, and you could argue the meta achievement from Visions which went away. SL had nothing other than mage tower remix. Dragonflight should have something fun and interesting though.
It could be a flippin’ tower of doom in the middle of Valdrakken, if it’s challenging and awards interesting rewards, it’ll be amazing.
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That’s not what he said:
Is a subjective. It doesn’t doesn’t pertain exclusively to challenge content. This isn’t difficult to understand.
You lost your argument, stop being pedantic.