Please discuss PvP at gamescon

Can you please dedicate some time in the expansion reveal to discuss meaningful PvP topics? You have a very large and dedicated PvP fan base that has been dying for some decent communication. Tons of people have already floated around ideas on how to improve PvP/participation in general so I wont make this a large post trying to squeeze it all in. I would just like the “we’re listening” motto to apply to us too.

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Yes, this. And also, Midnight really needs to have a new Battleground. Its inexcusable not to add one.

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To be honest most peoples takes on pvp are absolutely horrid and should be ignored.

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more felbats and the removal of ranked pvp pls (this is a joke)

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… is there?
There being people I don’t doubt, but PvP for a casual and PvP for a dedicated PvP-players are two entirely different beasts.

Casual PvP:ers go into a match, want to throw around some spells, hopefully win, and have a blast. Balance overall doesn’t matter, gamemodes doesn’t really matter outside of there being variety, and group size doesn’t matter in general. Only thing that matters is that you get to do your own thing and that folks don’t try to tell you what to do.

For dedicated PvP-players… effectively take everything I just said, and reverse it.


How do you meaningfully communicate to people whose venn diagram only qualify just barely on basically a mere technicality of “it is all PvP in one form or another?”

I’m mainly thinking about how people have talked about revamping the entire rewards system and give something for every player to work towards no matter what bracket they play. 3v3 is the only bracket that rewards a mount when solo shuffle and blitz are just as popular if not more so. And not everyone can get it either, which is fine but there should be cool things that non r1 players can work towards too.
RBG’s have basically died since blitz got introduced and there are a lot of players (including myself and friends) who love that game mode. Being able to get the illusion/tabard in other brackets is cool and all but having awesome rewards specific to each bracket that are more than just that would really bring them to life.

MMO pvp can not and never will be popular, as long as gear is the highest factor in a battle.

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3v3 is the only bracket that should reward a gladiator mount.

Shuffle and blitz are way too easy to push. If you want to give them something else sure but glad mounts nah.

Shuffle and blitz shouldn’t award anything more than this

Why not? I think it would be great if they made them all very different so you could distinguish one from the other and know how that person got it.
I agree that they are easier, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t get something cool for pushing to the top. They could even stretch it to legend can get a mount, but they should also add other cool things for people at 2400, 2100, etc. it motivates people to play and try. I main heals and I only play shuffle sometimes for practice or just for fun and all I have to basically show for it is a “healer exclusive pennant” that you can’t even use in arenas lol

Hopefully they discuss pet battles as well, it has a very large and dedicated fan base

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:joy: opening with a joke I see!

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There absolutely is, unfortunately participation is at an all time low and has been for a while. It’s dwindled since SL and has only gotten worse.
I don’t think it really matters if you’re super casual, middle of the road, or r1, if there’s cool things that you can work towards then people will absolutely do it.

They refuse to neuter the premades in epic bg’s so pvp is dead to me. Almost tempted to say they should delete it. Basically is in every way now, there aren’t even hostile faction exclusive towns anymore since like shadowlands.

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I don’t think it can be popular period.

New World before its “relaunch” hardly had any PvE content and as a result caused the game to be on life support. Not that the current state is any better but still, PvP will always be a side activity to PvE.

It has been, though.

You can full bis in an afternoon now. Much more respectful to players time than pve. :dracthyr_comfy_sip: Also gear disparities are…fine? It’s an mmorpg.

It’s really just raids and pvp, though. Everything else gets kind of ignored, including keys/delves.

And again, more PvPers trying to lie and say “Oh yea bud its easy to gear” so they have fresh meat to roflstomp.

If I cannot join a PvP match and have my Skill be the deciding factor, pvp will NEVER be good or popular.

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Oh, fresh meat is never gonna queue into somebody like me.

Also I PVE and PVP.

That’s all it is these days. Everybody gets full gear almost immediately. Also the game at its most popular had gear disparities where you got more ilev for being better at the game, so this sort of falls flat as a broad statement

almost

I still have to go through matches and fights where I am useless and not doing anything but dying over and over and over again.

And in my mind, PvPers want it to be like that, because the vast majority are the Killer archetype of player.

I want to have more gear for being better at the game but unfortunately we’re at a point where only ability matters which is also great for me but I’d still like ilev. :dracthyr_tea: PvP just has a steep learning curve (relative to pve) and newbies won’t play with each other.

What?

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