I have not mentioned this before because I did not want to make it worse, but Debuffs should all be cleared no matter what they are before you zone into arena. Make no exception, I am not going to disclose the exact exploits possible but there are a few.
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Yeah I noticed curses staying on until the next game sometimes? Or am I crazy?
not crazy, and there are some other debuffs used as exploits.
it’s absolutely an exploit because blizzard clearly intends no buffs of any kind to enter arena…
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can you name some of the exploits? I’m genuinely curious
i would but in this situation i don’t want to make the problems worse. Blizzard is slow to act, so if i were to make this worse then it would only make the entire bracket of 3’s and likely 2’s also worse for months until blizzard fixes it.
at that point you would see a lot of cheating in arena; right now it’s not terribly common, but it’s bad enough that if you’re creative you will figure it out.
people dont follow Harland on the forums to get the latest scoop in cheating. I just want one example
To give you an idea.
Think mother sha.
X spells do more damage to you, but your Y spells do more damage.
It’s debuffs like that that can make it into arenas
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How bout no.
really trying not to go into detail here because it’s really a dirty scummy thing.
ok any realistic examples though? like ones that could change your way to rank 1, not to cheese 1 random game…like no one is gonna clear to mother to have 2-5 people leave to do 1 arena game with the debuff
why make a post when you really have nothing to say lol? lonely day?
Start looking into debuffs from heroics, like shatter halls as an example. There is a lot of debuffs that are just stupid if brought to arenas because they have benefits in them. And people very much do cheese these things because of the beneficial power they give.
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He is trying to prevent knowledge of the exploit from spreading. While also trying to get it fixed.
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yes lots of things are possible but are not done because they are not meta, again no one is doing shattered halls so they can have a debuff for 1 game
wow forums is not where this spreads lol - if he was that concerned he could have just sent blizzard a ticket (probably would do the same amount of good as posting here) - the best way to prevent it is to not talk about it, the fact he mentioned it (made a thread at that!) at all tells me he doesn’t really care about it getting out, just want some forum clout
Look at what people did for world buffs.
Some of the debuffs stack and can basically make you deal 50% more damage, but you take more damage.
Now think about 2 dps in a 3v3 having this debuff and they pop their CDs. They can evaporate a player in 3 seconds.
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you cant compare a 2 hour buff to a debuff that lasts a few minutes, common dude…
Go look at how long some of those heroic debuffs last.
As long as you don’t die, they can last for 10+ quick games. As some of them have 30 min + durations.
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I understand that, I just want one specific example where it would be practical to get a debuff that would help carry you to rank 1 - from the way you talk about it, it should be pretty easy to find an example.
To be clear I agree no debuffs should be allowed, I just have an issue with how OP is presenting this lol, like if it’s an issue to be kept under wraps then shush and don’t make a forum post to then tell people you don’t want it to get out…
The OP is clearly trying to not give examples. I am respecting his decision for this forum and I won’t do an exact example, but if you really want to know, you are free to go to wowhead and look up debuffs from heroic trash mobs.
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