The use of the auction house should be an earned privilege after your first character has already reached max level. Trading with friends and being able to access that MMO feel seems fine but being able to constantly access the AH for gear, materials and the like not only disposes of the spirit of HC but also incentivizes a need for more gold than one would typically have access to while leveling, driving inflation and the lust for RMT.
By limiting the AH and keeping regular trading in the game, it also brings a sense of community back to the game where bartering, haggling, and hand-to-hand trading becomes the meta. Advertising in trade chat that you have goods and wares to sell would take time and effort, but leave the ability for those players who want to pursue that crafting and trading avenue intact while maintaining the stranglehold that needs to exist for HC and the sense of community to thrive.
the problem with hc trading on the mod that you’re used to is that it was mixed in with SC, if all gear and items are earned by hardcore players doing difficult content then it makes for a real economy experience, AH shouldn’t be limited, if you don’t want to trade then wait for the soul of the iron implementation.
I do want to trade, I don’t want it to be done passively. The gist here isn’t that I am not “anti-trading” at all. I am anti-auction house before level 60. The economy can exist just fine with effort of looking for items in trade.
It’s the same concept and reason that many classic players do not want dungeon finder in the game. I want the sense of community to exist in trading as it does when looking for players for a group to travel to a dungeon.
Having a limited access to goods makes it when you find that person that creates a certain item all that more valuable. It’s like finding a barber that does your hair just right. I don’t know how better to explain.
You think you’ll have enough gold to gear up off the AH and still afford skills and Mount? Most people on their first char to 60 can’t afford anything at all. So you get your request of a first char not being able to heavily leverage the AH till 60.
Please don’t ruin the economy on another server with all this Ironman, single player, hardcore ruleset. Leave the AH and trading alone. The game mechanics dictate that trading SHOULD take place. To level tradeskills you need to trade! Many recipes require multiple components from multiple trades, and one simply cannot make them all in single player mode.
I can see the problem with the AH and Trading if a group of individuals are playing their version of hardcore mixed with a large group of non-hardcore people, but when the entire server is playing Death=Ghost, that should be hardcore enough.
Let the game be played in Multi Player Mode as designed. Otherwise, make it an offline single player game where your chance of death due to lag or disconnect is gone,
Its hardcore enough initially but in a week or two theres gonna be twinked out wrecking balls obliterating everything … hardcore should always be hard.
I’d rather didn’t do anything about ah, but limited direct trades and removed player to player mails - this way ppl won’t be able to hoard stuff on banking alts, and when they die their stuff (including gold) will also get removed. Otherwise ppl will just store all their gold and valueables on alts, and send it to actual characters when needed.
They won’t do anything. These devs aren’t doing this for the hc community.
they’re doing it for themselves to get a WB before they die at lvl 20.
This is not HC. the fact that there’s an option to invite people to pvp and no option to block people from doing it is all you need to know about these devs.
They keep saying “wow is a social game” … well HC MODE ( ssf) is just as social. i’ve never felt like I was playing a solo game even back when hc was dead or on wotlk hc with very few players. Wow wasn’t made for hc mode… which is the whole point of asking for a server to replace the addon… they have to let go of what THEY THINK wow is.
some one linking a small brown bag and me smiling is 10000x more social than 40k people on a server using an ah
I was able to buy a gg green item on the AH at lvl 10 that i’d usually spit my drink out for finding on HC MODE at lvl 15
How about a hard no. Lol. A new player that is leveling up should have some way of being able to sell the stuff that finding out in the world. Jesus Christ the entitlement and controlling behavior this form sometimes is nauseating
Whats the point of the max lvl limit? You can get from lvl 1 to 70 in 24 hours if you wanted to. Lets stretch that out to a week. Even 1 week is nothing. Limiting AH use in any way makes no sense. Nice try tho.
You do realize the whole point of an official HC server is for the people who have been playing HC right? That means no AH and trading. Can we not have a server designed specifically for us? I thought that was the whole point of this.
This is very true. I honestly haven’t paid much attention at all to the chatter of my guild in retail, but the death announcements in my HC guild draw you in. It’s 'f’s in the chat when they die; you sympathize them; try to encourage them to “go agane!”; offering tips on what zones to play; awing at the few people who have made it to level 60. If that’s not being social, I don’t know what is.
It’s because we have been given this one chance to have a realm of our own and people are screwing that opportunity up. The hardcore community understands that HC is only HC with certain restrictions. Think about what you’re saying: you’re complaining about people wanting restrictions for a mode of play that is BASED UPON RESTRICTIONS. And you have the gall to act like it’s ridiculous to make rules a focus of this endeavor. Of course we are going to hyper-focus on what rules are implemented.
I don’t get this. If a player wants to twink out a level one, so they can breeze through content, after getting a level 60, why shouldn’t they be able to? How does this effect you in anyway.
The twinked players doesn’t increase/decrease your levelling time, and doesn’t effect how YOU play the game. Let people play the game how they want to play it, no?
@Tubgrime
I whole heartedly agree. I think the Auction house ruins the whole point of a Hard Core run. I’m not a fan of being able to group either. Call me a masochist but I like the struggle.
How hard are you playing ? You must play naked with 1 hp (aka not getting hit once), no vendor, no profession, killing all elite quests. If not then you aren’t playing hard enough.
These addon simps are delusional.
No. This is the issue. People who have no control in thier personal life try to control the masses by trying to pursuade gaming companies to restrict them to arbitrary rules. They came out with thier ruleset. Good day, sir.
AH sounds fun to me especially how it changes on Hardcore. I would say limit the level 60 enchants like Crusader and Fiery. Have enchants only usable based on the character’s level and item level.