Please Bring Back Adult Maturity

after reading the comments I was stunned at how many soft things got mad at this comment. then realized its probably mostly soft things that care about forum comments anyways so I’m out. New Blizzard is wack!

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Yeah pretty much how the entire endgame is tuned. It’s like they tune it that way to create maximum toxicity and then sit back and eat popcorn.

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it’s called humor.

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Community Council & Forum MVPs typically err on the side of neutrality for obvious reasons.

You’ll never catch them having a strict stance on anything controversial. Not a jab, but an observation. I understand it but don’t agree with it.

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So are the players on that one.

I’ve seen more of Xal’s foot thing from players more than devs but, then again I don’t fetishize pixels in a game though so there’s that.

We need more Xalatath and more Sylvanas-types in the game. As a young adult, Tyrande and Sylvanas were my favorite characters due to how visually attractive they were.

Now? If you look at Sylvanas’s face from the Shadowlands cinematic her cheeks are sunken in as if she’s been using heavily and her skin is covered by leather padding.

Bring back our characters.

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Maturity… /spit…

something isnt adding up there

While the point about censoring points to a profound truth,
it’s also true that “Adult maturity” throughout human history largely included the ability of a separation between the private and the public, the real and the imaginary, the short- and the long-term, the superficial and the profound.

Unfortunately, it seems entertainment industries have fallen to a philosophy that decries such distinctions but wields archaic morality in everything but how it twists words to pretend that it doesn’t. This is why things feel so unnatural… Because the mainstream view has resurrected and redefined the splintering and suppression of parts of human nature to be considered arbitrarily dangerous, or ‘sinful’, if you will… Almost akin to something written by Orwell being taken as a manual rather than as a warning. I blame education and academia (which I know from the inside).

I personally disagree with the premise in the OP, though, that the characteristics listed signify “Adult maturity”… They always seemed silly to me in this sort of game, even as a youngster but also now. Of course there should be a relative choice, say, of how you want to transmog your characters. But inappropriate paintings but also a lack of human realism – both sit on opposite ends of the spectrum between unsavory and totalitarian. Monolithic extremes alone just don’t work, as the human mind is individualistic and dynamic. In other words: Different people have different appeals, from what they wish to see in a video game. The safest solution is freedom of choice, with some agreed-upon guardrails.

Eww no.

You can keep your weird video game festishes to yourself.

That has nothing to do with adult maturity.

Most mature adults don’t sexualise pixels. Perma teens do though.

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You lost me here.

This is a video game that glorifies death and steel, not foam swords and cotton candy.

Removing mature themes from WoW does it no favors and puts a microscope on the host of other issues still present in the game which highlights the hypocrisy of their removals.

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So you’re saying that comment was a joke? I must have missed the knock knock

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Guess jokes aren’t allowed unless you’re wearing cloth mittens now.

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Why do gamers have to make everything so unbelievably weird lmao

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i mean i pay a sub, so not that far off :dracthyr_lulmao:

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I think you’re misreading my critique of the items mentioned.
I agree that Warcraft should have some concern with death, for example…
But why glorifying it?
If we want to call it an “Edge”, then again, I agree.

And yet, the things listed are more obscene and largely concern with some imposition. I don’t see how a player using /spit on another player after killing them is particularly sportive or inspiring. It’s almost adolescent behavior.

The most awesome gladiators, for example, are ones who carry themselves with self-esteem and dignity. A sense of heroism. Not having something to prove by resorting to instinct. That’s more fantastical, and also better if you want to include a larger range of audience ages. WoW is there for the gameplay, and the socialization (historically). Now, of course some competition and angst-inducing can help, say, stoking rivalries in World PvP (which is not as active now unfortunately). But there’s a looong way to go between that and “scantily dressed NPCs in portraits, dark dialogue target at any group and /spit”. Decorum is not the same as suppression. And the former, again, lets the game have its Maturity box rating and hence a larger potential audience.

There are plenty of jokes on the forums. That post just didn’t come across as a joke. Maybe that was lost over text.

Also what type of controversial things should we have strict stances on that we don’t?

a lot of people, especially those trying to be edgy on forums, ignore the basic idea that jokes are supposed to be funny.

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One of the best feelings I’ve ever had in the game was getting the last word by /spit on someone that I didn’t like.

It was the socially acceptable way of flipping someone off without risking a ban. Now, we can no longer do that. I believe that a generally accepted level of rudeness should be tolerated.

It’s the same feeling when someone gives you lip in a group and you boot them, leaving them standing there staring at the “You have been removed from the group” yellow text. It’s an acceptable form of pettiness.

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I’ve never understood personally why people want to try to be edgy on a game forum.

Seems like there are dozens of more appropriate platforms for people to try to be edgy.

then go /spit on someone you don’t like in real life, it’ll feel even better.