What makes you think that your grind is more difficult than somone queuing solo? YOU literally went to find people to play with to make it EASIER to gain HP/h… If anything the solo players should get an incentive to keep playing
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I know this is hard to believe but PUG v PUG prolly wouldnt get the same Honor per hour, and a lot of us dont really care if there was some sort of penalty.
Everyone hides behind the multitude of other arguments for keeping things the same but no one admits its really about the Honor per hour meta. Thats the real reason anyone wants to keep this dumbdumb system in place.
Someone queueing solo skipped the entire process of making a good team, logging on at a predetermined time, adjusting the comp based on what you have, calling targets out, networking with the other rankers in the server to figure out caps and bracket spots, reacting to the other team’s strategy…
And then he came to the forums demanding the same rewards as people who did all of those things.
You know it feels pretty good to beat a premade with a pug.
You do all those things to make it easier to gain your rewards. Imagine how much more difficult it would be if you achieved these without this coordination with others
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This game was designed 15+ years ago.
If you don’t like it, don’t play it.
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He made it to 60. I think he likes the game. God forbid he addresses an issue
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It would take much more time.
It would be, by design, almost impossible.
Because I wouldn’t be actually PvPing correctly, like someone pugging BWL without discord isn’t actually raiding correctly. In both cases you won’t gear up quickly, if at all.
I would accept this if there was an option to queue up for BWL and Nefarian was on the forum telling me that’s just the way the game is and somehow he and all the other bosses grind pug players high rankings.
My point being there is no comparison
Also if it is by design impossible, why would you argue that pug players get the same rewards. Kinda talked over yourself on that one
How is wanting to solo queue and do a few bgs for the sake of fun equal to wanting Highwarlord rank with gear and weapons??? The average casual pvper just wants to enjoy PVP and premades ruin that experience. Imagine you just want to play an objective based battleground but your two options are either to get farmed by a premade, or join a premade that won’t actually try and win if it results in a hard fought battle that will cut into their hph. The state of pvp in classic is garbage as it is now.
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They don’t get the same rewards. They never did. Lol
There’s the odd brutallis in dead PvE servers that plays 16 hours per day and gets to rank 13 but in general pugs don’t get the same rewards. And come on, they shouldn’t.
Why shouldn’t they? They would have to overcome a far more challenging grind than you do. Why provide less rewards for those who work harder than you?
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Dude, you’re simply wrong here. Accept it and move on.
What an interesting question 
Maybe we should split the queues, and simply work the same amount in different ways.
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You still haven’t explained to me why people who don’t do any of the PvP stuff deserve the epic PvP rewards. As I said…
“Someone queueing solo skipped the entire process of making a good team, logging on at a predetermined time, adjusting the comp based on what you have, calling targets out, networking with the other rankers in the server to figure out caps and bracket spots, reacting to the other team’s strategy…”
Do you do any of the above? Or are you trying to get good honor per hour and a lot of ranking points by clicking a button and hoping for the best?
Hoping for the best is the easy part, lease.
The hard part is making due with whatever it is that you get, and using what advantages you can find.
It’s a different kind of hard work.
So by your logic… People who go through the effort to group up deserve better rewards than those who don’t group up but still have a far greater challenge ahead of them
I don’t care about epic pvp gear. I just want a fair competitive match. That’s it.
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Is asking people if they want paper or plastic not challenging enough for you?
Then agree that you are refusing to adhere to the meta, are content with low-quality games of pug versus pug and campaign for separating the queues and giving premades some kind of bonus honor.