Average player is not going to an NBA stadium. The average player is simply queuing up for an AV match and facing a premade group, when theirteam is not a premade, but a random group of people. It’s not a fair match. There is no competition. There is no PVP match. Do you not understand that? How can there be a fun enjoyable competition when all you queue into are premades? Its unplayable. I don’t know how else to put it. It’s so simple to understand, yet you refuse.
You’re taking aim at a generational shift in gaming.
In my view, older players see games as recreation. Newer players see games as a potentially lucrative career path. To that end, newer gamers min-MAX everything, in the belief that they’re just better, that rules are made to be broken and that this has a chance to be their life’s penultimate achievement and you only live once.
I admire you for wanting to tilt against that windmill, but remember how it worked out for Don Quixote.
Then don’t play it if you really feel that way. Classic exists for a niche audience. It wasn’t made to be changed based on the whims of the fair weather player base.
To quote Ian Hazikostas
“It has to be accepted, which then frees everybody to find all the positive aspects, all the upsides of that friction and those inconveniences because there’s a certain acceptance of the downsides.”
I just want to create a fun enjoyable pvp environment for everyone. Right now PVP is a joke. Either you join a premade and stomp on a poor pug team. Or your a pug team getting stomped on by a premade group. There is no competition atm. PVP is legit nonsense. We need to fix this.
Errrr, 90% of matches are completely fair premade vs premade matches. Like 90% of matches are legitimate NBA matches and some randos invade the stadium and try to go for the NBA championship.
I do both man, premades and pugs. This is the funny thing about it.
When i premade, were almost always against a pug
When i pug, its almost always against a premade
what the hell? lol
90% are not fair matches. I can tell you from my experience 95% of the time I’m facing a premade.
Exactly. You invaded the NBA stadium where 90% of teams are NBA teams. Your chances of facing another team of randos is ridiculously low.
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They implemented rated battlegrounds in Retail years ago. I think that’s what you’re looking for.
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If that’s the case, separate the two. Premades vs Premades. Pug vs Pug. Simple solution. You guys are facing each other anyway.
No, because then you’d get comparable honor per hour without having to face us. What honor penalty are you willing to take to face only pugs?
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None, if you want to premade, you’re going to have to face other premades. No bonus or penalty. Just make the damn game fair and playable. That’s all I ask for.
You just admitted that you’re going for the same prize we are. Now the randos that invaded the NBA stadium are demanding to be given a “fair” chance at the championship.
Yes. The pvp experience.
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Going after the same prize lol. I don’t know about anyone else but if I saw a grand marshal or high warlord who achieved it by pugging I would be far more impressed than the dude who got it streamrolling pugs with his group of 10 or 15
It ain’t no NBA stadium… It’s the basket ball net outside school and then busses of NBA teams are showing up slam dunking on kids
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No we’r not. We’r asking to face other pugs. Not premades. We don’t want to play at an NBA Stadium. We want to play at a local park and NBA teams are queuing up to the local park. They should stay in the stadium, which they are not. Does that make sense to you? I hope that settles your confusion.
I think the word “premade” is misleading. If players join a “premade” but play poorly, THEY WILL LOSE. Every time. What happens before the BG doesn’t decide what happens in the BG.
But an ORGANIZED group that WORKS TOGETHER and USES STRATEGY will win every time againt a random group that does not work together. Just like every other group game or sport in the world.
Stop pretending that “premade” makes a difference. Strategy and working together make the difference. Blizzard is not going to change the rules to stop that.
Okay, solo queue and face a premade. I want to see what strategy you’re going to use with your pug team. Good luck!
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“None, if you want to premade, you’re going to have to face other premades. No bonus or penalty.”
You said you want NBA Stadium honor per hour. If you want our honor per hour, you have to defeat us.
If you want to play at the local park you should also get local park honor per hour.
There is no “our honor”. There’s simple honor. Now if you want to exploit the game and find an easy way to farm honor, that should be eliminated. You don’t deserve that honor, since you’re exploiting the game. You’re not honorable.