Can you please give the option to only get 1H weapons if playing a Frost DK? I am sick of doing these +8 delves and using my keys just to get a 2H weapon you are forcing me not to use because of how the Frost talent tree makes you go 1H weapons. It’s pretty lame how most specs in the game can use whatever weapon they get but I can’t simply because I’m playing Frost. You either have to fix the tuning so 2H weapon is viable or give us the option to choose which weapon type we want to have a chance to drop.
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At least Fury has the ability to set loot spec to Arm and only get two handers if you dont want to deal with single mind fury nonsense, but yeah Frost has no such ability to stop a weapon type from dropping.
And Fury can set loot spec to Prot to ONLY get 1H
I mean, no one is forcing you against your will to use that 2H weapon. You’re willingly using the item if you choose to.
Maybe try out UH for a change? It’s pretty fun.
If all you get is 2h weapons you are being forced. Either to play suboptimal or play a different spec.
As much as 2h people saying they didn’t want to be forced to play how the spec was designed, they should be on board with this as well. If they aren’t then it really shows where their true intentions are.
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Or you can cease this degeneracy and play 2hand
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Sure. But the issue is that, as Frost, you’re forced into a sub-optimal loot pool for weapons that you have no way of resolving.
The answer to “How can I ensure I can get the proper loot to optimally play my spec?” Shouldn’t be “try playing another spec”.
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People don’t want to nerf themselves and many play Frost because it’s a DW spec. Can people quit acting like Frost always was and should be 2h? This line of thinking isn’t supported in history.
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That would be a nice option to have, but it probably won’t happen since we’re the only class with weapon options that we can’t target with selective loot settings.
That is not the point at all.
Frost requires 1h weapons to play its optimal build. It has no way to say “hey just give me 1h weapons”
Imagine if ele shamans had a build you could only play with a 2H staff and it was 5% ahead of any other build. Think how bad it would feel every time you get a 1h or shield out of your vault or end of m+.
It’s an oversight has never been addressed simply because it affects such a small amount of the player base.
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I agree, I find it redundant how I am getting 2h hander in frost spec tbh
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That’s… not ideal. If the SMF fury warrior wants a 1h weapon, they have to remember to only use prot loot spec on bosses that drop 1h weapons and switch back to fury immediately after so that they don’t accidentally wind up getting tank trinkets and a shield instead of dps trinkets. It takes extra focus that 2h frost DKs and TG fury warriors don’t have to deal with.
I set my loot spec to unholy years ago so that I’d never have to see a 1h weapon drop ever again and I have the loot spec set to arms on my fury warrior for the same reason. I think it’s reasonable to set things up to filter weapon drops to a specific weapon type. For example, frost would have 2 loot specs - Frost (2h) and Frost (1h). Any spec that can equip multiple weapon types would have multiple loot spec filters; I’m including casters who can use 1h/oh or 2h weapons in addition to melee specs with multiple options such as monks, frost DKs, and fury warriors. I never want to see a 1h weapon again on any spec where a 2h weapon is an option, and I know there are others who feel the same way about 2h weapons.
This does exist with Holy Paladin. They can loot 2h Int maces which are worse than 1h + shield since it removes their Holy Power spender and causes them to do less DPS (and also makes them less tanky). And, while not exactly the same, a lot of times Outlaw wants a dagger off hand, which they can’t loot with Outlaw spec.
So that’s 3 specs that have issues here.
Oh I absolutely agree, I was merely pointing out the Fury can change it’s loot spec to near entirely suit it’s needs, meanwhile frost as OP said gets no choice at all.
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I 100% agree with this and have had this complaint since Shadowlands. It makes absolutely no sense that no DK spec can focus 1-handed weapons. It’s so backwards and upsetting to get 2-handers when they are currently suboptimal. It feels awful and rips away all the excitement of getting a new weapon. Please Blizz, PLEASE, just give Frost 1-handed options, we can always swap to Unholy to get a 2-hander and have the EXACT SAME loot table. This is long overdue. This needs to be addressed. Please. Please. Please.
Because Frost isn’t a 1h spec. 2h is just as viable and it’s recommended to just play what you have the better ilvl for.
2H is absolutely not sub-optimal for Frost. The Frost discord has said countless times that both builds are so close you take which one you have the highest ilvl for.
2H obliterate is very much a good build.
how about let us dw 2h weapons like fury can?
says who?
remember unholy used to be able to dw as well.
not sure when or why the devs changed things for frost and uh
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It is though.
None of this is true.
Thats not what they’ve ever said there.
They - very clearly I might add - say that if you want to play 2h Frost then play it, but that they do not recommend it because it’s 10% behind breath and 4-5% behind Shattering builds at the minimum.
That’s not “close” and is definitely in suboptimal territory. And since Breath-Oblit builds are the goto for 80%~ of people, 2h is actually closer to 10%~ behind, which puts it squarely into the “not optimal ever and bad” territory.
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