Please Add A Entropic Embrace Toggle

[Christhea-stormrage]

@Articskoll-stormrage

be permanently entropic form rather than the non spell effect.

Nothing wrong with having that preference or want.

@Rhielle-sentinels

It isn’t. Because none of those

Skin color is not a theme of race. Like no one race owns skin or hair color, that’s akin to saying the elves should’ve never gotten darker shades for representation.

@Rhielle-sentinels

. It barely lasts long to even notice it while in combat. We didn’t get a form like Worgen because of people like this that would whine.

It may not last long , but it procs a lot. Also the OG concept of Void Elves, was to look like High Elves, or Void Form, with a Two Form Worgen toggle. But they didn’t think it’d be fair to the Horde to give the Alliance 2 races with a dual form option, so they axed it, and made the Blueberry skins that VE launched with.

@Karat-anubarak

so going “they’re getting something so we deserve something too” is disingenuous.

Well I apologize for seeming disingenuous, I am not trying to. Just trying to add in extra justification for it, as most on here attack any kind of High Elven option request, and have for years. I am honestly extremely grateful for the NB options, and happy for NB mains.

@Féyrre-wyrmrest-accord

model that was already modeled after us, so it can feel poor.

Honestly I wish they would’ve given some more unique options to BEs to help alleviate this feeling, as all they got in shadowlands was a beard option from VE really, and some jewelry for females. Especially considering that BE lore has taken on some cool aspects, like teaming up and potentially mating with some NB, and more Light powers, not to mention their heritage they share with the VE on Magister runes/tattoos and far strider stuff. Because I feel like Blizz could’ve easily put a specifically Blood Elven feel to it, that would help create a more unique theme and aesthetic.

@Féyrre-wyrmrest-accord

But I don’t agree with more Void Elf options being the solution.

That’s fair, I just know the alliance needs something to seem more appealing to people. I was hoping for Naga or Jinyu/Ankoan in BfA to help with that, but instead we got Mechagnomes, lmao.

@Silverleigh-drakthul

Any further options for Void Elves should go towards giving them more void option, not less.

In your opinion, and you are fine to have it, but you have to realize that VEs were a grab and an awful jab at ppl who have wanted HE for years, and the VE player base is 50/50 with picking HE or VE options.

@Mátt-senjin

Blood Elves should get Dark Ranger options, San’layn options, Fel Blood elf options, and yes High Elf only customization like tattoos and more, and the Druid class. Void Elfs should get none of what I just stated. You’re still a void elf and that’s that. You should be asking for more uniqueness and not the killing of a core race.

Blood Elves, were initially given to the Horde to help with the faction imbalance, and now the Horde is vastly outnumbering the Alliance. Which is why they won’t ever get Dark Ranger because it would kill the alliance.

San’layn were actually intended to be an AR instead of Mag’har, but ppl complained about “too many elves” so we got Mag’har.

The only unique options really should be Shadowy stuff for VEs and Fel & Light Stuff for BEs as that is the only REAL distinction in their races/factions.

As for getting druid, while I’m all for it, out of the two races, Void Elves make more sense for it. For one, the Horde already has more Druid options, and for two, VEs are made up of both HE and BE, canonically, and HEs are far more attuned to Nature then a BE. Not to mention that Nightmare Druids makes far more sense then Drust druids (Kul Tirans), and we even see Nightmare Druids in the lore.

Granted I’m a fan of both or either one of them getting druid personally, but if we’re sticking with lore applications for them, then that’s what they are.

[Christhea-stormrage]

Again, I am not sure how digging through my account, and finding my priest, derails, or discredits my commentary or request for a VE toggle. The level of stalking that you took to try and then bully me, and discredit me, by sharing, only speaks volumes to the kind of person you are.

[Christhea-stormrage]

@Doness-kargath

can be used to find alts. It’s not hard. It’s not stalking, either.

It is stalking, you are literally trying to discredit me, and have been doing so, by mentioning that this is not my main. That is legitimately bullying. Also, just because it’s not hard to find, does not mean it is not stalking, it is STILL stalking. Not to mention you were the first one to point out that I had main, and that you took the energy to find it.

@Doness-kargath

High Elfers on the forum seem to have a bad reputation for using alts

I’ve had to use alts, because when I am being nice, and just talking about options I’d like to see, in a public forum, that is meant to request these things, I am belittled and attack into nothing. I am not ashamed of any of my posts or requests, but I was not about to post this thread with my character, when I already know ppl will attack me for being a High Elf fan, as it’s already happened before on here.

[Walkerbo-saurfang (Walkerbo)]

I am all for velfs turning off Entropic Embrace, all or nothing.

[Silverleigh-drakthul]

@Christhea-stormrage

@Silverleigh-drakthul

Any further options for Void Elves should go towards giving them more void option, not less.

In your opinion, and you are fine to have it, but you have to realize that VEs were a grab and an awful jab at ppl who have wanted HE for years, and the VE player base is 50/50 with picking HE or VE options.

Even if true, and I would need to see evidence especially for the first bit, all of that is irrelevant because the race is Void Elves, not High Elves, ergo they should have void options, not high elf options.

If folks want High Elves, they should be asking for High Elves. Like I do. Every chance I get.

Which reminds me: Real High Elves or Die!

(This board really needs signatures.)

[Walkerbo-saurfang (Walkerbo)]

@Christhea-stormrage

It may not last long , but it procs a lot. Also the OG concept of Void Elves, was to look like High Elves, or Void Form, with a Two Form Worgen toggle. But they didn’t think it’d be fair to the Horde to give the Alliance 2 races with a dual form option, so they axed it, and made the Blueberry skins that VE launched with.

I did not know this, do you have a source?

[Walkerbo-saurfang (Walkerbo)]

@Christhea-stormrage

Blood Elves, were initially given to the Horde to help with the faction imbalance, and now the Horde is vastly outnumbering the Alliance.

This is another one I have not heard of, do you have a source for this as well?

[Índra-moon-guard (Índra)]

@Christhea-stormrage

one more feature for Void Elves,

This is not a feature for the Void Elves.

[Beijixiong-stormrage]

Blood Elves were a mistake.

[Impchuckér-area-52]

Hard no champ. Give the helfers an inch and they went a whole friggin marathon. This is what happens when you give in, noones satisfied with a few bits n pieces.

[Christhea-stormrage]

@Walkerbo-saurfang

do you have a source for this as well?

They’ve openly said that in BC they gave the Horde Blood Elves, because almost no one played Horde, and they figured the pretty race would balance out the factions, however since then it has been heavily skewed, as that is by far the most popular race, which why Void Elves are in turn, already one of the most popular alliance races, and their numbers grew when they got the skin tone options.

@Walkerbo-saurfang

know this, do you have a source?

Ion stated it in a Blizzcon interview around the time Void Elves were announced, I’m trying to find the exact one, but if you search up Blizzcon interview, you get an endless sea of videos, lol.

[Lannisterian-tichondrius]

@Mátt-senjin

No, it is bad enough Void Elf’s unique identity was ruined for the sake of alliance high elves. We wanted more Void customizations not less and now all chances of more are gone.

Blood Elves a core race in the game have been 1 billion % shafted in the name of whiny folk who don’t get how much their identity has been stripped of them too. Blood Elves need their own equally unique niche options similar to void options if not more now because it’s only fair

I think core races in general that are lacking should be looked at before VEs get a third pass and then yeah more void options obviously all the way, but very much all of what you said!

[Christhea-stormrage]

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

before VEs get a third pass

I mean, you say a third pass, but to be fair, Void Elves are typically the after thought of what ever additions. Other ARs have had actual additions, where as VEs only get toggle switches from BEs. So in a way, they haven’t even had a full pass, for either Void Options, or High Elf options, because they easily could’ve created assets for either aesthetic, instead of just flipping some switches. Granted I do love that they flipped the switches, but in reality, nothing new was added into them. Unlike the other ARs that are getting some, granted they do need the love (the other ARs that is). The only core races that could be considered lacking however are Pandaren and BE. In my opinion.

But I do think they should be doing more with the Core racial heritage armors, that they just kinda dropped…

[Rhielle-sentinels (Rhielle)]

@Christhea-stormrage

Skin color is not a theme of race. Like no one race owns skin or hair color

It is what sets them apart from Velfs. Or was. Until people whined. Now you look like what you’re not supposed to look like.

@Christhea-stormrage

that’s akin to saying the elves should’ve never gotten darker shades for representation

They shouldn’t have. There is no “representation.” They’re elves.

@Christhea-stormrage

It may not last long , but it procs a lot.

Good. Deal with it.

@Christhea-stormrage

Again, I am not sure how digging through my account, and finding my priest, derails, or discredits my commentary or request for a VE toggle.

It doesn’t. You asking for it discredits the request.

@Christhea-stormrage

It is stalking

No it isn’t.

@Christhea-stormrage

I’ve had to use alts

No you don’t.

@Christhea-stormrage

I was not about to post this thread with my character, when I already know ppl will attack me for being a High Elf fan

We already know you are. This isn’t rocket science.

[Christhea-stormrage]

@Rhielle-sentinels

No it isn’t.

By definition, it is.

@Rhielle-sentinels

It doesn’t. You asking for it discredits the request.

But anywho, this literally makes no sense. Someone asking for something, doesn’t automatically discredit the request.

[Doness-kargath (Doness)]

@Rhielle-sentinels

They shouldn’t have. There is no “representation.” They’re elves.

Really wouldn’t go there. The dark skin tones for Blood Elves are fine, but I agree with the rest.

[Rhielle-sentinels (Rhielle)]

@Christhea-stormrage

By definition

Wrong. Your armory and stats are there for all to see and look at. That’s not stalking.

@Christhea-stormrage

Someone asking for something, doesn’t automatically discredit the request.

It does when it’s this ridiculous.

[Lannisterian-tichondrius]

They added human skin tones to the human skin toned races, there wasn’t a need to add non void options to VEs in that regard as they were blue, I can’t tell if that’s what Rhielle meant but I assumed as much

I’d say OP bringing up the new human skin toned options added to the human skin toned races doesn’t really have a place in the convo of if VEs should have gotten an entirely second visually distinct set of options

[Doness-kargath (Doness)]

She was talking about Blood Elves getting dark skins originally. Void Elves are a different story.

[Autai-moon-guard (Autai)]

@Articskoll-stormrage

personally im of the type thats the opposite, if they added a toggle my void elves would be permanently entropic form rather than the non spell effect.

Same, I want to look like a Void Elf, not some blueberry.