Petition: Remove Shadowy Duel from the game

Yes, but it doesnt give them the extra crit anymore. I believe its called Sentinel or something like that in the hunter talent tree.

Yea I agree, making rogues choose between duel and bomb is a solid solution.

Rogue is insane, they can sap you, burst your dps he can trink immune, then get dueled and if you save him, the rogue can just swap to you and kill you and spam cheap shot (because that should be a thing lel) without even having cds, forcing your trink. Sub can control an arena by himself, Sin/Outlaw are also very good, look how many rogues are in top 100 in 2s and 3s

I dont need to trinket, I can use dp while stunned and I can 100% die through dp and sov. What now are you gonna say save bubble?

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RIP 40% DP. Best is when Sin rogues open w/ Garrote (25% of their dmg) (2 abilities = 50%) so I can’t wall until half, now I Wall as my mate gets saped, I’ve though about blinding as I think I’m about to get kidneyed but if it misses I’m screwed.

Sounds like a git gud situation.

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Exactly how would blinding “miss”? What lol. If you use it into cloak, that’s a you problem. It is great though when a paladin blows both hammer and blinding into it like…

And if you check your abilities, you still have bubbles, freedom and run, and self heals and teammates.

If you’re going alone and trying to solo a rogue (which from your comments, that sounds like it’s what you’re doing), well you still have the upper advantage but if it’s a good one then they’re going to play with your CDs

when rogues win they just deserve to win duh

OP could probably post during one of the endless stuns you rogues seem to have.

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I’m talking about the initial opener when my mate gets sapped, so obviously the rogue is running at me in stealth for kidney. What I’m saying is I want to blinding light him before he does but he’s in stealth and it has to be timed right because Idk where he is and when I do it’s too late.

Yes I have plenty of abilities to use, while I’m in a kidney and my team mate is in 3 Cheap spams whilst the rogue is doing max damage, the bottom line is, a Sub rogue alone can get so many cooldowns by himself.

I have no Idea how you think I’m soloing a rogue… as a hpally.

You just said a bunch of vague stuff… “Hey buddy, check your abilities, you have bubbles and freedom and run, don’t attack him alone and you have the upper advantage if you use cooldowns” what great wisdom buddy, If you think I need to bubble in run and a Sub rogue is trying to kill me in the opener then you obviously don’t know how rogue works but thanks for the glad advice

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The onyl thing I hate about assasination is the stupid sudeen demise passive that ignores all drs and just outright kills you.

Sub and to a lesser extend outlaw are the main problem. Why does sub cam cheapshot you b2b to the point If I have no bubble I have to trinket a 1s stun or less just to sov because I am being killed through dp.

Dp might as well not exist, everything goes thru it.

This thread won’t die, the community will have its vengeance on the yellow class

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Your first mistake was thinking blizz actually cares about this game mode. We’ve had the same BGs for nearly 20 years. WoW started as a PvE game and Microsoft will continue to treat it as a PvE game. PvP is and always will be an afterthought. The only people who can change that are the ones allowing the hilarious balance of healer RSS MMR & who say DH output is fine.

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Duel can be countered in most situations.

A duel is by definition consensual. If you didn’t accept the duel, you should be able to sue the rogue for damages.

so true and spamable cc should also be nerfed and have a cooldown it’s just insane, Ghostcrawler was such a better pvp designer/devlopver lets hope his game studio cranks out some good stuff, blizz just said screw it and hates the pvpers now i guess even though WE MADE THE GAME POPULAR, aka warcraft movies and the thousands of views pvp videos have and entertainment value way higher than raids or dungeons. sure participation might be at an all time low right now but this game wouldn’t have hardly the player base without the pvpers.

I think this is the overall consensus. A complete tragedy and I still have 0 hope in Microsoft. They have no successful titles since Age of Empires which happens to be PvP but who knows? We shall see. It unironically feels like they don’t play their game enough to truly understand the experience from top to bottom.

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In a 2’s on my DH I just nether walked while the rogue popped everything they had in a duel then they lost soon after. You can also just blur, fear, imprison, rain from above, fel eruption, chaos nova, darkness. There are ways to counter it.

I’d rather look at these scenarios in that manner than “Let’s take away fun class flavor toys.”

Wow, 1600 player gives us advice, I’ll remember it.

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