Why does a 2 game loss streak affect the games you get into if you have a personal MMR? I am 2700 personal MMR after losing 2 games and now I’m in a 2.5k MMR game. Why does this exist? Please blizzard we just need personal MMR to matter and that’s it. You shouldn’t get punished twice for losing games that are barely in your control anyways, it makes 0 sense. The punishment is you losing MMR and getting into lower lobbies. If I tanked from 2.8k personal MMR to 2.7k MMR, my punishment should be getting 2.7k lobbies instead of 2.8k. There is no reason at all to have different variables affecting the matches you get into other than personal MMR. Please fix this.
I’ve also noticed this with win streaks. If I go on a 3 game win streak and get to 2.9k personal MMR, I will be in 3.1k MMR games. In my opinion this type of system has no place in a ranking system and it doesn’t even make sense. It doesn’t make the queues faster or anything. It just creates a weird double punishment/reward system for the player when there only needs to be one thing that matters, personal MMR.
Friends of mine that are high rated say that MMR is more important than CR. I never payed much attention to the whole thing, just try to win, and have fun!
The personal MMR of everyone on your team is added up and divided by how many players there are, that’s the team average MMR.
Your 2700 went into calculating the 2500 number for the team.
Stop thinking of it as reward/punishment.
You are playing a game which is tasked with ranking you in relation to other players. It is simply trying to find where you rank. It can only do that by putting you up against other players of varying abilities.
I do understand it. You don’t seem to understand. I have played 6x the amount of blitz games you have played so please don’t tell me how it works lol, especially when you are 1600. Yes, your personal MMR matters but it also doesn’t at the same time. 2700 personal MMR should place u in games around 2700 and not at 2.5k. Going on losing streaks places u in matches way below your personal MMR and that should not exist. There shouldn’t be another factor in what games you get placed other than personal MMR, because in Blitz you can get unlucky teams/comps. So losing 2 in a row should not put a 2700 personal MMR player in a 2.5k game. The punishment should just be you dropping 100 MMR from 2.8k to 2.7k and that’s it. There is a reason why so many 3k+ players have dropped down to 2.5k because they would get unlucky teams and get placed in MMR lower than there personal MMR and gain 0+ CR from wins. And everyone in high MMR agrees this should not be a thing. You shouldn’t be punished extra from having bad RNG matchups on certain maps. The only condition should be gaining/losing personal MMR. And that’s it.
I somewhat agree, but if there are no other 2700 players in the queue, the game will go with the next best match.
Blizzard has to balance the people who are upset over the quality of match, with the people who are upset about queue times.
They recently reduced the bands which the game is able to draw from and reduced the likelihood that you’d have duplicate specs, but that came with very much increased queue times, with very few quality improvements.
Sure, level 12 Classic toon.
This is my forum character (it has TL3, so I can link things, I don’t feel like switching all the time), I have at least 2 of each class, with at least 1 for each faction.
Generally there isnt 16 players of near identical MMR queuing in a 10 min period for it to match together. You may be the highest, lowest, or somewhere in-between with a 400 or greater spread of MMRs among players in the lobby, plus you may even see someone in your lobby with little to no MMR as they duo queued in. If you have lost games recently, it isnt unheard of for it to place you against and with players you may feel you should play better than as your MMR is higher, thats ok.
I would rather sit in queue for 1+ hr than to play a game that gives me +6-8 CR per win and -16+ CR per loss. That is why no one at high mmr queues late at night because there is a chance that you will be placed in games -300-400 MMR under your personal MMR, which I don’t think it should be a thing. I’m not going to sit here and gamble queues and lose a lot of CR off of it, just not for me. I’ve been there and done that and tanked over 400 CR because of it. It’s hard to understand for people why this isn’t enjoyable unless you are pushing for rank 1 spots. There is a reason why I don’t want lower MMR games to give me +6 per win because it’s not worth my time to try to win a game I shouldn’t even be in, especially after only 2 losses in a row. I can understand 4-5 or so but not 2. And look up Aoko-Skywall, Foolnight-TwistingNether, and Aozaki-Feathermoon if you want proof I’ve played a lot more Blitz games. I didn’t make this forum post for people to reply to and give there opinion on it. I made this forum post for Blizzard to have insight on how awful this ranking system is compared to other games especially at high MMR, and it should be way less punishing. In League of Legends, there are high MMR players waiting hour+ long queues because the game will match you against players at similar MMR and not matching challengers with random 50% win rate platinums/emeralds to fill the spot. There is a reason why Riot designs it like this so you can have high quality matches at high MMR. And players are willing to sit those hour long queues to get a good match instead of a match that is just filling the spot since not a lot of other people are queueing.
It’s still crazy to me that people think this is the place to leave feedback.
It’s pretty obvious Blizzard doesn’t read it.
It’s even worse when the poster in question doesn’t bother to use paragraphs, as though they expect someone to bother reading something which has had absolutely no thought put into it.
I didn’t read beyond the “I would rather”. I’d bet that if a dev did read it, they’d skip most of it, especially if it was on the company clock.
Lol. I just love it when people post things in the forums and unless everyone agrees with them 100% and tells them how great and intelligent their ideas/opinions are, they just get instantly aggressive. Like alright, time to take you seriously
You don’t understand anything because high MMR works completely different than low MMR. This is like an elementary school kid that just started playing basketball trying to teach people on how the NBA works. Like I said, you have no place for an opinion unless you are 2700+. Please know that you don’t know everything in life, and just because you are sensitive I called out your experience doesn’t make you any more right. Maybe understand the spec/class you play which is easier to understand than MMR before commenting on anything technical.
Again, like the other guy speaking on something he has never experienced before in his life, you are low MMR and have no idea what you are talking about. Please stick to commenting on things you have experienced rather than just guessing “this is how it works”. Thank you.
So you have 6000 posts on the forums just to argue with people and not give proper feedback to blizzard? I’ve seen you on other forum posts talking about things you have no knowledge about. I’m starting to see a common pattern here…
I’m not wanting everyone to agree with what I’m saying. I am giving feedback to Blizzard about an issue at high MMR. If you can’t understand that then I guess there is no helping you. You can just move along to the next forum post that you spend all your time on. No one here asked for your opinion or for other guys either. And if you do decide to have an opinion, you can at least have the experience such as being 2700+ to comment on such things. But you don’t have that either. You are just arguing with someone who has more knowledge on the subject than you do because you find it entertainment for yourself to argue with people. Again, like I said before, show me a character above 2700+ that you have so I can listen to what you have to say seriously. Otherwise, this is just nonsense I’m reading.
