Personal loot is harmful to the game IMO

… you do realize Mythic Kil’jaeden is a raid boss from 2 expansions ago right?

In wrath I could one shot Ragnaros, completely ignoring his mechanics.

Rubbish.

It would be an issue and encourage more toxicity than there is now.

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They removed it, because it was an issue. Saying now it could come back … because it wouldn’t be an issue is pretty insane.

Then an issue, now still an issue. Nothing changed.

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I’m saying bosses are still being killed . ML being removed has had no impact on the fact bosses are dying so clearly progressions hasn’t stopped .

It’s maybe slower due to the fact gear drops got nerfed. But it’s still happening

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Doesn’t matter.

You cannot skirt the issue that others will experience negative gameplay with the reimplementation of ML.

That’s difficult to believe considering basically everyone agrees the game is more toxic today than it ever was.

Masterloot fostered a feeling of group progression. You were actually happy when someone else got a piece of loot, even if only because that meant you got it next. Now it’s all me me me. Selfish jerks have taken over the game.

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I’m sure this mythical “everyone” surely doesn’t represent a biased peer group. GASP

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Ha! Then selfish jerks would just abuse it regardless.

Only your coordinated brain washed groups would benefit from ML.

By that logic, having attunement quests wouldn’t matter because somebody would still kill the bosses. Someone would still progress. Nevermind only 4% of the wow playerbase would actually achieve anything because clearly that doesn’t make a difference.

Do you have any real arguments?

They are free not to use it. I’m currently experiencing negative gameplay with a bag full of loot I don’t want and can’t trade and slots that aren’t upgraded that should be from other people in the same situation. I can’t choose not to use personal loot.

You are free to leave if you don’t like it. Go play FF, i hear they have ML.

Isn’t that your thing, if you don’t like it, leave?

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Then we’re split as a player base even more because some just want to screw others out of loot.

Do you have any real arguments??

ML is a plague blizzard agrees that its a plague its gone.

The majority of the community doesnt clear bosses because of skill not gear.

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Quite a few have. Which is partially why the game has gotten so much worse. They’re trying to extend game time as much as possible from those who remain.

No some want to use a loot system. If you don’t, feel free not to run with them. It truly baffles me your side doesn’t see how hypocritical and frankly wrong your position is. I don’t like this loot style so NOONE CAN USE IT!! You sound like 5 year olds throwing a tantrum. If you don’t play with my rules you can’t play at all! Lethal literally just said this lol…

Source on this? or just your opinion?

Do you have literally any other reply? Source on this has been your reply to 5 different people in this thread.

By all means, prove me wrong.

Good riddance to bad rubbish?

It’s baffling to me you deny it was ever abused, and somehow think it’s return wouldn’t mean the return of the same abusive behaviors.

The reasons underpinning the removal of ML have not changed. Thus, ML will not return.

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Then lets consider the other aspects you would gain if ML was switched on.

You would get the loot you’ve targeting faster and coordinated groups could max out broken class specializations faster by funneling all the loot to them.

Blizzard can’t have you going fast.

If you have 20 people in a raid, and everyone has personal loot, how does that “hinder” their progress not being able to funnel loot?

I agree the ilvl restrictions are silly, but aside from that - give the individuals choice on loot first then put it up to group. Master looter never felt good.

Also, this post getting flagged is absolutely ridiculous - it is just an opinion post.

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  1. I never said it wasn’t abused, I said trials had loot thrown at them. Because that is fact. A fact you keep ignoring because you know you can’t argue the basic logic of it.
  2. Again, master loot is and always was an option. If you got taken advantage of, its something you signed up for. Don’t run in master loot groups if you don’t like it.

Except this happens already. It’s just done with split groups and multiple toons. Thus the top progression guilds don’t really suffer from this, just casuals and mid progression guilds. The rich get richer and the wealth gap grows.