Personal loot is harmful to the game IMO

If that kind of greed existed then, what makes you think that same insidious behavior is absent now to allow MLs return?

Okay. So? Don’t play with jerks. Problem solved.

These things are extremely rare with Mythic progression. Mythic progression requires teamwork. Molten Core’s complexity capped out at a boss that summoned 4 adds.

I’m not the guy that thinks his experience with loot and guild management is the same experience of everyone in the game.

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But a rogue ninja looting has nothing to do with ML.

Because modern raids require teamwork.

Don’t like personal loot only. Don’t play wow. See how simple your own argument is.

You’re welcome to dig through your own post history if you can’t remember what you said.

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When it takes 5+ threads to explain innocence i’m pretty sure they’re guilty of theft at that point.

The system was abused so it was removed.

Good riddance.

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Classic isn’t Vanilla. Ninjaing existed in Vanilla but so did blackslisting. Having cross servers makes that nearly impossible nowadays.

Clearly you are, because you think guilds survived spitting on new people and giving them nothing. I can only reason that either you’re a horribly toxic person, or the guilds you signed up for by some twist of fate all were. Because guilds cannot be successful like that. Again, trials were brought to FARM content and had gear thrown at them.

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To the exclusivity of the handful of raiders you need to beat the hardiest content.

Also might I add mythic progression has no way been affected by ML being gone. Guilds are still killing bosses. Progression is still happening. People are still getting their items.

People that had cliques with the guild admins aren’t getting geared as quickly and they are upset.

Yes it affects the top 1% guilds negatively but for others it’s a positive change.

Blizzard has taken away the ability from guilds leaders to Distribute loot unfairly.

this is a good change

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Guild come and go at a super rapid pace as it is. I can log in right now to A-52 and there will be at least 5 mythic guilds crying about not having ranged dps who are doomed to not exist in a month. As if loot practices were the sole reason guilds bust.

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Other than to encourage others to do similar behavior with ML.

But it doesn’t.

I’d also say from a competitive stand-point they didn’t want the hardcore guilds to funnel all the gear to the one or two inevitably broken specs, cheating boss mechanics more easily.

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Lol handful of raiders. Tell you what, grab 2-4 people and go try to do Mythic Kil’Jaeden NOW. I’ll wait.

Modern mechanics and mechanics in Vanilla are two entirely different things.

Why would you make an argument like this which is not only false but demonstrably so. ESPECIALLY when Alliance has suffered from it far more than Horde. Seriously, compare completion percentages for top end Mythic bosses from Legion to now. With the sole exception of Mythic Kil’jaeden, (one of the most difficult raid bosses in history) every single boss has a higher completion percentage. Alliance especially has taken a heavy downswing.

Sure you can hardly say masterloot is the ONLY thing that changed, but the numbers do not support your argument AT ALL.

Leafblight, you know perfectly well that people who have never raided know way more about it than people who have.

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Maybe. But the ML mechanic will apply to all groups not just guilds pushing Mythic raids.

Our raid group has had zero issues with personal loot. If the people don’t need it, they put it up for roll. Everyone has gotten geared and there have been zero complaints about it.

When ML was a thing, there were always people complaining that the raid lead was playing favorites. This eliminated that completely.

If you see a group with ML and you don’t like it join another. Or stick it out for the first few bosses and see how it goes. ML coming back wouldn’t be an issue.