I don’t think it should be removed if a large number of people find it enjoyable. For instance I am not a fan of PvP in this game but I’m not calling for it’s removal. I just want the effort needed to equal the rewards. For a warfront the effort needed is on par with a Heroic Dungeon, so it should give 325 gear and maybe drop 340 for the quest. Then the people who find it enjoyable can do it with eachother and not have to worry about people like me who hate the content and just do it for the reward.
And I’m not allowed to say what I think of people who do only LFR,
People playing the way they wish
How DARE they…
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Wait but I’m playing the way I wish??? I wish to afk in content that allows me to. What’s the difference??
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You are part of the problem … You’ve missed the entire point.
I didn’t miss anything, there is a reason why we have Guilds/friends. So you don’t pug and complain.
Pugging anything is at your own risk always, and will ever be.
You can’t force the entire player-base how to play this game, it doesn’t work that way. This is not how you own a Big company. Doesn’t matter if you agree, or you think it’s wrong or whatever - $$ is $$.
Still…missing…the…point…
Can you blame them? Micro-transactions allows people to just skip past grinds and get straight to the reward. It’s the mentality these days thanks to mobile gaming and micro-transaction bloated triple A games.
That is your point. “The game doesn’t teach players how to play, and they get rewarded for doing nothing”
Still in the game, it’s called Mythic Raiding/Finding a Guild.
How others are enjoying the game is non of your business, unless you are one of those reasons I mentioned earlier - The wannabe “snowflake.”.
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There is actually little to no character/gear progression in Mythic raiding. Unless you are a top 100 or so guild, most guilds cleared mid tier Uldir bosses like Vectis and Fetid at 382-383 item level. This means they are almost full mythic raid geared before they clear half the raid because of things like the warfront and titanforging.
I’m don’t really care about how others enjoy the game, but I enjoy RPG’s that have meaningful progression systems which WoW USED to have.
You …will…never…get…the…point…
So a person that only does M+ is going to get 380+ regardless, does that means lets remove M+ because you think only Raiding should provide that kind of item level?
Don’t force your play-style over others. I’d rather earn my gear through high rated BGS/Arena or M+ than waste my time wiping on a boss with 19 randoms for 100times in 2019. Did that 10years ago.
I did, you are just entitled nothing to see here, pretty sure you been watching Asmongold lately from your attitude/reasons.
What are you talking about? Do you even read posts or do you just read 4 words and generate a response. Go back and read what you said and read what I said. You said all the progression is in Mythic Raiding. I told you it isn’t. I’m happy that there are alternate gear progression models. High rated PvP and high Keys are on par with Mythic raids and should reward as such. Warfronts and titanforging however are not, and should not give the same rewards.
I haven’t done Warfront in a long time, they are dropping 380+ now? is this for real or you are trolling. Last time I checked it was a base ilvl of 340+
Unless you are talking about the 2 week quest 370+
You dont even have a clue what is going on in the game… Which is why you will never get the point of this post.
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You get a 385 quest from darkshore once every 3 weeks and also the darkshore world boss drops 385. These will be scaled to 400 next week.
Edit - What Houdi said above. Why are you disagreeing with us when you don’t play the part of the game we are talking about?
So 3 weeks 1 385+ is a huge deal? while you are clearing 8/8 bosses. and getting a chance on at least 3-4 loot per run every week?
lol.
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I’m done with you, you are just clueless and you been watching Asmongold.
Why do you need high ilv gear to casually do WQ???
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I 'm too old for you dude, again I used to act like you 10years ago… I get where you coming from though…
“I’m the tough guy in a video game, look at me”
And I know If I check your profile, I would see nothing but a 1200 rated player.
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I think it’s a big deal.
Getting 20 people online at the same time with a specific group comp and coordinating for hours through hundreds of wipes rewards 385 loot.
Clicking a button and afk’ing rewards 385 loot.
Does nobody else see a problem? lol