People DIDN'T Know What They Signed Up For

If they allow paid server transfers I’ll never give blizzard/activision another cent of my money.

Uhh… hahaha okay?

"If they do the thing that was available to us in Vanilla, then by golly I’ll take my money and WALK you hear? WALK!!! "

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It wasn’t in vanilla. I was there.

Transfers were absolutely in vanilla.

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Paid Transfers were in vanilla as of patch 1.11

Ha! 1980 people on Westfall? I WISH! I spent over 2 hours doing a collection quest in STV because of all the players. Decided it was too crowded and went to Desolace to tie up that area. It was PACKED. Gave up on questing and thought maybe I could farm a bit on my main. Nope. That wasn’t happening either.

Yeah that site is hysterical.

I like that analogy, but if I were to tweak it I’d say it’s more like imaging a basketball match of 50vs10 on the same playfield as 5v5.

Yeah you are right but the main focus of the analogy is the play field size. Playing on the same play field a 5 vs 5 it would be not the same experience as playing on the same play field 50 vs 50 ( due server imbalance 70 vs 30 ).

This current dynamic just reminds me of how WoWScape was, and I loved that, so I’m content.

I could very easily see how layering may have misled people into believing their server wasn’t as populated as they thought or that layers allowed for more smaller scale pvp to happen more frequently leading to an overall better experience. reinforcing people to continue to invest more time into leveling on pvp servers without seeing what would really happen once removed.

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Awesome! See ya later, then. :raised_hand:t3:

Paid transfers were in Vanilla.

  • 6-month CD
  • Limited gold you could take based on your level
  • No PvE to PvP, but you could PvP to PvE, and same to same
  • Etc

My guild went from Gorefiend - US - PvP to Ysondre - US - PvP at the beginning of TBC, but we had some folks lag behind us because they had transferred to Gorefiend during Vanilla and were on CD still.

And honestly? Given your absolute silliness with posting and lvl24 toon… I doubt you played in Vanilla at all. I’m guessing… Cata baby? Cata baby.

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As a Horde player on Heartseeker I agree with the OP indicating there should at least be an option to leave. That being Paid transfer or free PvP to PvE transfer.

Yes, yes… “I know what I signed up for” etc. however there was zero way of knowing the balance would be so uneven.

Having an option to leave would be nice. As a primarily PvE content raider it’s not fun to just get Molly-Whopped everywhere at anytime while trying to do anything out in the open world. Typically 5v1 or greater at all times.

Cheers.

  • The Corpse Druid running back for the 10th time
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the Horde on Heartseeker understand what the Alliance on almost all the other servers are going through as reflected in your post.

almost all the “just re roll”, “PVP happened on a PVP server”, and other neckbeard comments are from Horde who live in the little safety cocoon of their faction dominated servers.

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Paid Xfers is the only logical fix.

All those one dead servers can pick where they wanna go

Dead servers will die

It will stay in our hands to balance realms while blizz makes profit

Choice is easy

“Oh wait dont you have phones?”

Then again we are dealing with a company that didnt learn much 15 years ago

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destroy your smartphone!!! #nochanges

Or you could have limited time FREE transfers. Granted, Blizzard would profit more if they were paid, but I feel because they ensnared and trapped people with P2 honor, players shouldn’t have to pay to leave.

Only if the transfers have a long cool down. Something like six months. But I really think they should offer paid transfers. I think the information was out there about what phase 2 would be like if people cared to look. I feel like having free transfers would start a slippery slope to this game eventually becoming what retail is.

Unreasonable expectation. Sure people were warned, but they were also told the exact opposite and then they rolled on the server and without honor it played almost exactly like a pve server. So using your own personal experience, the glorified stories of what pvp servers were, and the peer pressure of being the only “true” way of playing wow and not being a carebear, it’s pretty obvious how we got to where we are.

Obviously people who know what PvP servers are/were knew what was going to happen, but the vast majority of people on PvP servers (there’s way more people playing on pvp servers right now than was remotely true in vanilla) had absolutely zero experience, nor did they spend hours researching it on the forums.

Even if that information was there, It’s ridiculous to expect them to not be completely ignorant to what was going to happen to them. Some things just have to be experienced.

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Exactly. Well said.