Sure, as long as if the people that caused the 5 wipes on trash leading to first boss get the title “THE TIME WASTING ENTITLED TRASH”.
I like your title better.
Maybe have an idea what rio is actually before you spout nonsense.
This part is dead on.
Do you people really need another thread? Sorry but it isn’t happening. Learn to play and you won’t have this issue often enough for it to matter. That’s too hard? Cool. GD will be here for you.
I make it a point not to treat other people as a number so I have never and will never use that metric to weigh the worth of a human. (also no, you won’t find any such number for me because i only did m+ in legion, bfa and now especially SL aren’t worth the headache of doing m+ in)
Nah, people want the ability to bounce out of keys without getting in trouble, and want the ability to ruin a key for 4 other people because they think -their- time is worth more than 4 other people.
Despite it making sense there should be some penalty for brickin’ someone’s key, the forums will continue to fight tooth and nail for their ability to bail whenever they want to without repercussions because the idea of potentially pugging into a group that might make them spend 10 extra minutes in the dungeon is horrifying to them.
Despite them turning around and telling people to stop pugging and find a guild / group to run with, they wouldn’t want to follow their own advice.
Just out to be nasty to other people who don’t play the game YOUR way huh? I don’t turn other people into a number and treat them as tools to use in my own ends… i’m so bad and terrible for refusing to take part in a toxic system!
No, people rarely leave for a reasonable run a few minutes over. When you have people face pulling and missing mechanics, simple mechanics, repeatedly…that’s when people bail. Your time is no more valuable than anyone else’s. Despite what mommy might have told you, you are not special in this sense. If someone signs up, there is a reasonable expectation you have a clue—if you don’t, that’s on you and you deserve the lower key. Do the homework for the content you want to play unless you have friends or a guild that doesn’t mind incompetence. Most of us value our time a bit more than spending 2 hours in a run that should have been 30-40 tops. Don’t like it? Find like minded people and wipe to your heart’s content. Have fun with those gold repairs. By the time you are done, the rest of us will have ran 4. Glhf.
You don’t need to be as careful who you run with if you’re not gonna have a meltdown over someone leaving now and then. For those folks who really hate leavers, the smart choice is to eliminate the issue by running with friends.
Hey here’s the thing, you can insult me all you want, but my idea would keep time wasters like you from just bailing out… its pretty clear I struck a nerve since you went from 0-60 in .01 seconds flat for me suggesting shameful players be publicly shamed for their actions
If everyone is playing at their own personal skill range (Eg. Playing +2s if you’re new, +10s if you’re experienced and so on):
In your +2, it might be going OK and you’re on time to finish before time ends; to the +10 player, all your mistakes are glaringly obvious.
Where it gets interesting, is to a +15 player, the +10s mistakes are also glaringly obvious.
To the +25 player, someone struggling in +18s is well below them and still making mistakes.
The problem with pugging is all these players might mix together. Unless they know ahead of time the experience level of the players, there’s a chance if things go poorly that its about to kick off.
Where io can help here, is by pulling their experience from the armoury, you can have a brief glimpse of others levels.
Now you can decline that alt with 3000 io main if you’re not experienced. Or you can invite only 400 io players if you’re 400 too. This way, the experience levels and expectations are kept closer; which should minimise the chance that people with higher expectations drop group.
What is insulting? The fact that I stated you don’t know anything about rio yet you speak as if you do? Because that is truth. You assume I’m a “time waster” and that I “just bail out”…when I stated already that people don’t usually leave a reasonable key. Struck a nerve? Sorry to burst your crazy bubble, but I don’t have a problem with people leaving my keys. I’m aware it can happen, and if it does, I won’t be crying on the forums about it. It really is as simple as
because spouting ignorance you have regurgitated from other threads on GD while having no knowledge for yourself is the problem.
You have gone after me 4 times because I suggested a way to stop people bailing out on keys… Hey thanks though this will be a good copypasta for me for whenever people insist M+ players arent toxic and aggressive
Here is what they do in FF14 if you are the first to leave a group you get a 30 min penalty you can not enter any dungeons, raids instnaces for 30 mins. However the group can vote to abandon the dungeon with a majority vote then nobody gets a penalty and you are kicked out of the instance.
I don’t know, I haven’t bothered with M+ since legion and I wouldn’t use RIO even if I was going to go full lead paint chips and give blizz another dime for this trash heap of an expansion… so the advice you gave might be useful to someone looking to use RIO but that isn’t me.
Everyone deserves a chance to prove themselves, people arent just numbers (tools for me to use), so I don’t know what I’d say in relation to your suggestion other than “I don’t rio” lol
I’ve seen this mentioned before as a reason someone doesn’t like rio. If one is pugging and using the LFG finder, they’re already filtering people down to specific categories. Are they ranged or melee? What class? What spec? What is their ilvl? Do they have the group utility we need? Do they have the covenant we need?
Those categories aren’t any different than asking, “Do they have relevant experience to the content we’re doing?” which is what rio addresses. When you’re sifting through 25 or more listings, it’s (presently) the easiest way to answer that question without deep diving conversations with every applicant.
I pug a lot, but I highly recommend people run with folks they know to avoid having to judge 30 players at a glance just to find 2 or 3.