Another post on this topic? Do people think that if they keep repeating the same thing over and over something will get changed…
…well, maybe it will. It’s happened before. But whether it is changed for the better, that’s the thing.
Until the game is able to employ telepathy to know why someone left so as not to punish someone who was forced to for personal reasons, I can’t see much changing. It’s unfortunate, but its the way it is.
Now I really wonder if it’s appropriate to compare leaving an ongoing M+ keystone to leaving an ongoing League of Legends game.
That game actually punishes people for leaving the game and the game is now evolved into different gamemodes.
Blizzard has to make it actually show somehow in the ui and then raider io can be modded to show quitters.
I’m in favor of it as I rarely have groups that are incapable of getting through content.
I much more often have toxic players or people who don’t care who ruin the key over nothing. These people should have to account for it.
The other option would be a stacking debuff that doesn’t go away when you log off.
First instance: 30 min debuff
2nd time: hour and a half
3rd time: six hours played time before you can party again.
Resets on weekly reset. No I’m not sorry screw leavers.
I call people funny yet inoffensive names and then we’re even 
Yes it’s the risk you take when you pug, but repeat offenders probably should get some sort of punishment. Bricking someone elses key for no apparent reason is a colossal pita.
One time offenders shouldn’t be punished because, well, yeah, there’s plenty of reasons why one might leave an M+ early, even as early as before the 1st boss. But if you’re constantly bricking other peoples keys by leaving early, especially if you’re doing it maliciously, then that should be actionable.
So you’re just tossing out opinions on content you don’t currently do and haven’t participated in for several years?
Good lord, GD can be ridiculous
Everyone pays their own sub, who says 4 others $15 sub is worth more then yours? You can’t punish people in player-driven content. Find friends or M+ group. Easy fix. Don’t pug strangers who owe you nothing.
Players should also have access to the success rate of the party leader when deciding if a group by that leader is worth joining.
What type of penalty? How would it be determined if you get one? Who would determine it?
What happens if someone D/C?
What happens if the group can’t reasonably complete the dungeon?
This has been brought up countless times and literally every suggestion ever made has had more holes in it than swiss cheese for people to abuse.
Simple fact 4 is greater than 1 would be obvious. I’d think, but then again you just want the ability to bail when things aren’t going perfect, so I’m not surprised you’d miss that.
If you don’t want to be beholden to a group to stay for the entire process, don’t pug with people you don’t know, or don’t sign up for the key. Pretty simple.
It’s rather entitled to think your $15 is worth more than 4 other people’s $15.
If you don’t like it, don’t pug, simple. Join a guild get a friend group so you don’t ever have to worry about bailing.
No, not really. There are good reasons to leave and you don’t pay my sub. If I want to leave because someone is a carry and wasn’t mentioned and we aren’t gonna make it…yeah bye. I owe no one anything, you feel entitled to make others feel entitled to stay in your slow pitiful runs that fail and for what? 1/5 chance of loot for fail key after 1 hour? Nope. Good thing you can’t do anything about it.
Welcome to the PUG world where its lawless.
Most idiotic suggestion I have seen in a long time and we have people like Preheat on GD.
Lets lump everyone into 1 category and punish them all equally based on no further evidence.
So the guy that has a medical emergency = the troll that left.
This is from the same guy that mentions “worth of a human” 
You are contradicting yourself, are we suppose to treat everyone fairly and measure their worth as a human or just willy nilly label them all as quitters with no further evidence?
Mandatory account wide title “THE QUITTER” lol 
Your words hold no weight as you haven’t even participated in the content you are commenting about this expansion, people will not take you seriously because you have no experience in the topic and make blanket assumptions on leavers and pushing for them all to get punished equally while going on about “worth of a human”.
No.
fail groups shouldn’t be able to hold someone hostage. play with your friends or guild.
Nah, your the one sounding entitled.
Run with your own group or don’t pug, your time isn’t worth more than anyone elses. Your sub isn’t worth more either.
Should be penalties on people leaving keystones.
I literally stated a penalty in my post. sigh smh
I wouldn’t say that I don’t mind. It is annoying. That said it is a) the risk I take bringing a pug and b) punishing people doesn’t actually help anything. My key is still gonna be bricked, and they are still going to leave the next dungeon that is not going to their taste.
Oh, so you mean just a deserter debuff?
Okay, so then I just afk by running into a wall, forcing the group to try and carry me or leave first so I don’t get the debuff.
I thought maybe you had come up with the first non-abusable penalty system for M+, guess not.
Horrible idea.
says the guy with 0 mythic runs
No, I have no intention of carrying your 3k dps Havoc.
True story, today I had a Havoc in a 14 doing 3.9k dps at a boss with pride and lust.