Snowpine is a well-known forum troll.
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I’m really just saying I get why OP is worried, at the end of the day. The rest of this is me picking at my personal issues with the post Blizz made.
Well i mean iv been in 3 diff groups on that classic raids LFR and people cant finish it lol
I usually have a strike system in my head when I’m tanking. (Most of the keys I do nowadays)
If there’s a critical mechanic - e.g: Devour has gone off (with 3+ stacks aka only my own dispell and healers) and I’ve mentioned it more than 6 times, yeah I’m out. (aka it’s been explained, it’s been brought up as an issue, it’s delayed the run AND people aren’t fixing it? Yeah nah)
The last key I left Valiona in Grim Batol had healed up to max twice.
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Smile n suffer through it or risk a permanent vacation. 
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Show me someone who got a vacation for that. Or, anyone who got hit by this at all, which should be easy if there’s bans flying everywhere.
No, it was for obvious scumbags. Like, dropping group as soon as the key goes in.
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Have you considered wowmadeeasy.com? Take a look, might suit your needs.
No, they aren’t going to tell you the thresh hold so you can game it.
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If youre so good why are you doing 7s? If you’re gonna whine dont play at a level clearly beneath you. Good luck
just grow up and leave we’re all adults here its not biggie
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If you’re not intentionally bricking 100+ keys in a week by leaving in the first 90 sec, it’s near-certain you have nothing to worry about. A bot needs to flag you and then there’s a manual review. You’re not going to get banned for leaving a key that is 10 min over-time and with 50+ deaths already.
If you think otherwise you’re just incredibly paranoid.
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I have disliked playing with randoms for years, which is why now I only play with friends and Guild mates and I avoid mythic plus like the plague because no one in there even when I was playing during shadow lands really knew what they were doing and even when we would time a key someone would still complain. I feel like mythic plus was the worst thing to ever happened to this game and I was never so happy until I walked away from it.
There’s definitely some good feedback in the responses. To all those who genuinely provided meaningful posts, thank you! To answer some of the…less helpful questions:
I was doing 7s to farm crests.
I don’t use raider io because I don’t really see the benefit it provides beyond what the mythic+ rating already does. Neither will ACTUALLY tell me when a player has bought their rating/gear, or when they’re a great player but they’re playing on an alt that their not as familiar with, etc.
I’ve experienced DK’s, rogues, and shamans who won’t interrupt even if their lives depended on it. I’ve watched H priests and R shamans spam fast heals until their oom because they don’t know how to utilize their class’ toolkit. My personal favorite is getting into groups with one person that’s 620+ ilvl with a 2200+ rating paired with a friend who’s barely 600 ilvl with less than 500 rating; clearly trying to help a friend.
My concern–if I even have one–is that I don’t want to be punished for making a hard call in a bad situation. Because of the volume of keys I do, a simple threshold like “X keys left in Y time” can absolutely be tripped by someone like me.
I hope many of you are right, and blizzard is manually checking every complaint to ensure they don’t (even temporarily) ban good players like me who simply aren’t interested in slogging through a bad key.
They are banning habitual griefers not people just leaving keys.
They are banning people that join a key then leave the key.
Pro tip:
Don’t join or invite those players.
Nobody is forcing you to stay in a group like that
If you know how to read it it does. Person A has 8 +10s, 1 of each dungeon and nothing else. Person B has 72 runs, 1 of each dungeon at each key level from +2 to +10. Which person is more likely to have paid for boosts?
No, RIO won’t tell you how a player will perform in your specific key. It’s used to give you a better probability and to make a more informed decision.
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What I find most useful about raider.io are the stats for each dungeon and levels the player has completed them at. With raider.io, you get the amount of keys they’ve timed within a certain range; a person with 2,000 IO that has only timed 4 +8 keys might be a bit problematic; a person with 2,000 IO that has timed 75 +8 keys probably didn’t buy them all.
You can also find details about each key they completed if you want. So you could see that a player had 8 1-hour long NW +10 keys under their belt before they finally got an in time one. A lot of people won’t want to do this much work, which is fair enough. But the option exists if you want to leverage it.
Those are both really good examples, and I honestly didn’t know about raider io to that extent. I used it very briefly back when it first released and thought it was going to turn into just another item level–back when IT first got released.
I’m not wrong, either. All of these metrics people try to use to determine whether a player is “good” or “bad” are all equally arbitrary. Do they give you a better chance of guessing right? Sure. But, that’s all it is.
A player with a high IO could be playing an alt, or a different spec, or a different role. Yes IO tells you how they timed the keys (as a tank vs dps). It still doesn’t tell you definitively if a player is going to help you succeed at your key.
You’re always going to roll the dice when you pug, there’s no way around that. RIO just gives you the best tool available to minimize risk.
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