I’ve been in two back to back 7 keys where the players are obviously, woefully out of their league. Granted, it’s late in the season; people are playing alts and gearing different characters that they maybe don’t play (like tank or healer).
Forcing me to stay in a group for 2+ hours with 50+ deaths because the healer dies every.single.pull. is completely ridiculous. And all it does is make me extremely dislike playing with other people.
There isn’t a penalty for leaving mplus.
The penalty is supposed to only be applied to habitual leaving. So you dipping out now and again should trigger any response from Blizzard.
My problem is, “habitual” doesn’t exactly explain anything. We’d all like to think it means those dumpster fire players who leave 9/10 groups because it failed once or didn’t use the route they’re used to, etc.
I play M+ exclusively. I literally don’t do anything else in the game. That means I’m running anywhere from 5-10 keys a days most days of the week. I don’t want to get a ban because I might leave 6 keys in a week, when the reality is I did over 50 keys that week.
The blue post described it as habitual and intentional. The people weren’t leaving 6 keys a week, they were leaving 6 keys an hour. You’re not going to get banned because you left a group that died 15 times before the second boss.
Habitual means something is done or practiced regularly, repeatedly, or by force of habit.
I wouldn’t stay there for 2 hours. That’s too long.
Post squish M+ isn’t really intended to be PUG’ed. It’s built for social accountability, which PUGs don’t have. You don’t need logistical leaver penalties among friends.
I recommend a community like the dungeon dojo as a midpoint to complete blind PUGing.
I do not have a set team, my social circle is too spread out, thus M+ isn’t content for me. I think the intent is that more people realize this or form solutions like dungeon dojo… or stick to delves.
You aren’t forced to stay, though. You can leave whenever.
Did they (Blizzard) actually say this?
Tbh I don’t blame folks like OP for being worried about it.
Why did you join a group with players that were woefully out of their league? Didn’t you see their IO or ilvl before the key started?
I’ve left like 25 groups in 2 weeks recently.
It’s fine.
(Timed 2 keys.)
Youre free to leave whenever you want
I was being hyperbolic, but here’s the copy/paste:
"Today, we issued gameplay suspensions to players who intentionally left Mythic+ groups a great many times in The War Within Season 1. The sort of behavior we actioned was either without regard for the experience of their fellow players, or in some cases, even deliberately intending to harm others’ experiences.
This is detrimental to the community of players who strive to do their part in group content the vast majority of the time.
We understand that occasionally, abandoning runs will happen. Players can experience unexpected real life emergencies, internet outages, or the group collectively deciding to quit the run. Today, we suspended players who repeatedly and recklessly disrupted Mythic+ groups.
We will continue to keep an eye on groups in the future, and repeat offenders are subject to escalating penalties.
Thank you!"
You can read between the lines. Leaving a horrific group halfway through is not “deliberately intending to harm others’ experiences”. This was targeted at the kind of people that leave immediately after the key is dropped and do so repeatedly. Blizzard has logs. There’s a difference between someone leaving halfway through when the rest of the group is constantly dying and someone who leaves a group with trolling intent.
I mean, I can agree it doesn’t read like that.
On the other hand, is there anyone actually running keys that thought this was a common issue needing to be fixed? Not sure I’ve ever seen it.
I’d love to say “ah, Blizzard is just saying nonsense to make people feel better” but I’m inclined to believe they actually kicked some people. So who?
People who have a lower tolerance for poor groups, or this bogeyman intentionally joining and leaving that no one has seen?
Probably targeted to people who gloat about failing or how some people don’t “deserve” to time a key.
I only ever see this in-game when tensions are high. They still joined and tried at least one pull, in those instances, and I don’t think it’s right for those folks to get actioned for that behavior, frankly. (Unless it’s particularly egregious in text, but that’s not a leaving issue.)
People who don’t use raiderio to vet their applicants most likely.
I’d assume they kicked people who were habitually and intentionally nuking keys. Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
Which is fair, but this is why I’m asking. Who’s seen it? Genuinely.
I don’t think kicking one in 100,000 people that may do it (a generously large percentage IMO) required a statement on the matter.
Eh on some keys that fail, I report people for chat.
Probably gets actioned for both (but flagged as keys for some reason.)
Anyway, haven’t been banned yet despite timing 2 keys, and leaving 25 or something.