It was mild but when systemlands arrived it was more full blown and in your face.
That is when pay 2 win was very intrusive and disrupting game play for lower rated PVP players and those doing PVE content at lower ratings.
People were paying boosters and carries with real life money and for gearing so it is a double trouble of cheating that was occuring to obtain an edge in the first season of systemlands.
BlizZard had to clamp down on it because it was out of control and taking over many of the trade channels.
Keep in mind before systemlands launched it was a big issue at the tail end of BFA but really spilled over and openly in the first season of systemlands.
Take out the top like 5 guilds in the game and paying for any item is not going to give them a ‘win’.
Take out the top like 100 guilds and for everyone else it comes down to skill to see who can get first to CE and highest M+ and PVP rating, and no amount of buying stuff is going to change that.
You sure quoted it like it was important than called me a liar when I didnt agree lol.
And you didnt point anything out…
You wouldn’t know what dense is, even if you got hit by osmium.
Feel free to read through the replies here. Perhaps you can formulate some kind of clue of right and wrong.
Also creating your own definition and running with it is spreading misinformation (what you’ve been doing this entire time)
Pointing out the quality of your idea of p2w is not moving the goal post rofl.
You don’t even know what that means.
Like I said, you found your buzz word to use. Like you do in all of these threads you act like this in.
The only way to “win” WoW is to have 100% achievements, which is so rare that it’s decent-sized news in the community when anyone does it. Pre-achievements, it would have been beating Kel’thuzad or Kil’jaden. So I would venture to guess that less than 1/10th of 1% of the playerbase has ever been in a legitimate “win” state.
I have only played to have fun and have taken major breaks whenever I stopped having fun since Wotlk when I was ~18 and my brain solidified enough to realize I wasn’t going to regret not having T# gear when it was current or a limited time mount on my deathbed.
I feel like people keep using P2W as the overarching category when it’s much more useful as a subcategory of predatory MTX. I’m not a fan of the overly broad definition as it waters down what is an extremely unethical monetization strategy by equating it with less predatory or even benign systems like the token.
You’ve said that i’ve said that, and i simply pointed out that somebody else said this.
Either way, you’re missing the point entirely to focus on this rather irrelevant detail of it being not the ilvl at what you want, when the point is the fact ilvl is part of the “Enchanced” level boost at all.
All you’re saying you don’t pay attention. Which i’m more inclined to believe at this point.
Nice “No U” projection.
Also, i would say “try subtlety” in your attempt of being clever with your joke here when your comment just screams “I’ve googled this”, but … you think level boost in WoW isn’t a Blizzard service.
…All it would do is highlight more problems with your replies.
I’m not creating my own definition, i’m simply using everybody’s definition of P2W here, taking into consideration of all the different times of Gameplay affecting MTX that it’s only sole purfose is to gain an advantage.
If you fail to understand the difference between creating, and just simply using others, that problem might be on you.
Also another “No U” projection from you. It just sounds like you’re angerly copying me without understanding the context of why i’ve said it. And you’re the same person that says …
…Yet you think this excludes you.
That’s your problem if you see words as “Buzzwords” to just deflect or dismiss, instead of actually engaging with the discussion.
That’s all you have is ‘no you’ nonsense. Thus saying you are more dense than osmium, which is impressive mind you. Which tbh I would be highly surprised if you understood that to being with.
Not at all. Its pretty much all you do on the forums. You find someone to get into these silly debates with, and even worse. You try arguing a point that most don’t agree with.
Your 20k posts are pretty self explanatory, and it’s sad you don’t think I don’t recognize you
Anyway, I’m done with your nonsense. Feel free to have the last word.
Ciao.
Jesus, are you going on a “No U” encore here? Like just deflect on to others or project your own feelings aren’t real arguments. I feel like you’re just here to argue for the sake of it and just being a contarian.
As i’ve said before…
You’re welcome to be wrong, but you were making a hasty generalization based off of one thread here and applying that to all of my comments.
This just sounds like you hate discussion and would rather force your way and force opinions down people’s throats instead of having an actual discussion.
Welcome to the Internet where different opinions and idea clash together and debates and discussions come from it.
Irrelevant. Only relevant for those who don’t have any real agruments. As well your angry “You can have the last word”.
… I don’t think anything of you at all other then you think Level Boost from WoW isn’t a Blizzard Service somehow.
It really depends on what your definition of “winning” is. WoW is a very multifaceted game with a bunch of different activities. For some people, winning is having all of the collectables. For others, winning is having their all of their BiS equipment. In some aspects, WoW is pay to win, as certain cosmetic items, pets, mounts, and toys can only be bought from the in-game shop, meaning if you’re someone who is trying to 100% their collection, you’re out of luck if you don’t pay up. The infamous WoW token is without a doubt the most P2W aspect of WoW. Why waste hours playing the auction house or gathering reagents when you can just swipe your credit card to get the gold you need to buy that prestigious 5,000,000g longboi mount with an integrated AH that other players would need to grind tirelessly to obtain?
