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When are you addressing BM hunters?

Out of control all expansion, you just ignore it and nerf classes that don’t need it.

Do you need a babysitter while you work? Seems like you do.

The data has shown them double representation to the second highest in 2100+ for at least three months now.

FIGURE IT OUT.

EDIT: Adding my data compilation from a lower response to the main post for simplicity.

Drustvar’s stats indicate the following totals over EU and NA:

Ranged Representation in solo shuffle 2100+

|#1|BM Hunter|3311 (22.78%)|
|#2|S. Priest|1890 (13%)|
|#3|Aff Lock|1790 (12.32%)|
|#4|Ele Sham|1520 (10.46%)|
|#5|Frost Mage|1486 (10.23%)|
|#6|Dem. Lock|1053 (7.25%)|
|#7|Dev. Evoke|958 (6.59%)|

Nearly double the representation are BM hunters as the second place.

2400+ Solo shuffle.

|#1|BM Hunter|714 (20.99%)|
|#2|Aff. Lock|458 (13.47%)|
|#3|S. Priest|372 (10.94%)|
|#4|Ele. Sham|363 (10.67%)|
|#5|Frost Mage|352 (10.35%)|
|#6|Dem. Lock|309 (9.09%)|
|#7|Dev. Evoke|236 (6.94%)|

Once again nearly double.

2v2 top 1,000:

|#1|BM Hunter|150 (36.5%)|
|#2|Aff. Lock|51 (12.41%)|
|#3|Dem. Lock|50 (12.17%)|
|#4|S. Priest|45 (10.95%)|
|#5|MM Hunter|27 (6.57%)|
|#6|Frost Mage|19 (4.62%)|
|#7|Bal. Druid|18 (4.38%)|

Literally TRIPLE representation from the second highest in 2s.

3v3 top 1,000:

|#1|BM Hunter|107 (17.83%)|
|#2|Ele. Sham|104 (17.33%)|
|#3|Aff. Lock|91 (15.17%)|
|#4|Frost Mage|88 (14.67%)|
|#5|Bal. Druid|46 (7.67%)|
|#6|S. Priest|45 (7.5%)|
|#7|Dev. Evoke|35 (5.83%)|

This seems to be the only relatively balanced bracket with representation; likely because you need coordination between DoT / hard CC / snares & a slew of tools to survive BM hunters regularly.

The data speaks for itself, how has this class not been adjusted. They are the HIGHEST IN EVERY BRACKET, even in 3s, though not as prominent.

Please also consider that this is all HIGH END ARENA. Meaning it appears that hunters have the LOWEST SKILL CAP with the HIGHEST REWARD. My speculation regarding their 3s representation is that it’s harder for Hunters to fully control and out damage three enemies in voice communication while also relying on their party.

Blizzard has this data, there is no way they do not.

DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

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Of all classes to complain about …just … *sigh

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Just line the pet 4head

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Are they really that big of a problem? I’m just a casual 1800 survival hunter but I don’t seem to have problems dealing with them. I thought they nerfed BM some to ease up all the meta chasers but I guess BM still slappin a lil?

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I feel like things have settled now to where any BM hunter is just comfortably 200-300MMR higher then they should be. For instance at 2.4mmr today it was pretty easy to just freecast on this guy, like he hardly ever used kick, and hardly feigned go’s. Yet he can still play at 2.4mm by throwing a couple traps and spamming their simple rotation. There also seems to be a BM hunter in at least every other shuffle lobby.

So depends how you look at things - if you think there should be an uber easy spec that allows you to attain high rating without knowing basic positioning or how to use your kick, then BM is fine. If you think having them in every other shuffle lobby is okay, then there’s nothing to address.

Personally I don’t enjoy having teammates that don’t understand the game at a similar mmr, or know how to use kick at my mmr in shuffle, and don’t enjoy seeing them every other lobby. Does that make the game unplayable? No. Does it make for a good experience? Not really.

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hunter is def the easiest class in the game to play and get rating on.

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every aff lock and bm hunter need -500 on there cr, that’s their real rating

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how are you struggling against bm as mwer

that’s literally free money

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What about fury war and assa rogues?

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Should enh get +500?

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nah those things can die, bm and aff cant

enh is just as broken as everything else thats broken

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I leveled my shaman and specced into ascendance and omg i can 100-0 someone in 2 VERY FAST globals its actually busted its no joke (im full greens)

Warriors literally cannot do that

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You realize there’s “first blood” data that shows how killable a target is… out of every spec, Aff is #2 as the most killed target at 64% first blood rate, behind destro being #1 at 70%.

And of course WW is only 34% first blood rate… one of the lowest. Assa is 51%, BM is 33% and Fury is 46%.

So no, aff is not unkillable. It’s the second most killed spec in the game behind destro.

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Nerf fire mage

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Drustvar’s stats indicate the following totals over EU and NA:

Ranged Representation in solo shuffle 2100+

|#1|BM Hunter|3311 (22.78%)|
|#2|S. Priest|1890 (13%)|
|#3|Aff Lock|1790 (12.32%)|
|#4|Ele Sham|1520 (10.46%)|
|#5|Frost Mage|1486 (10.23%)|
|#6|Dem. Lock|1053 (7.25%)|
|#7|Dev. Evoke|958 (6.59%)|

Nearly double the representation are BM hunters as the second place.

2400+ Solo shuffle.

|#1|BM Hunter|714 (20.99%)|
|#2|Aff. Lock|458 (13.47%)|
|#3|S. Priest|372 (10.94%)|
|#4|Ele. Sham|363 (10.67%)|
|#5|Frost Mage|352 (10.35%)|
|#6|Dem. Lock|309 (9.09%)|
|#7|Dev. Evoke|236 (6.94%)|

Once again nearly double.

2v2 top 1,000:

|#1|BM Hunter|150 (36.5%)|
|#2|Aff. Lock|51 (12.41%)|
|#3|Dem. Lock|50 (12.17%)|
|#4|S. Priest|45 (10.95%)|
|#5|MM Hunter|27 (6.57%)|
|#6|Frost Mage|19 (4.62%)|
|#7|Bal. Druid|18 (4.38%)|

Literally TRIPLE representation from the second highest in 2s.

3v3 top 1,000:

|#1|BM Hunter|107 (17.83%)|
|#2|Ele. Sham|104 (17.33%)|
|#3|Aff. Lock|91 (15.17%)|
|#4|Frost Mage|88 (14.67%)|
|#5|Bal. Druid|46 (7.67%)|
|#6|S. Priest|45 (7.5%)|
|#7|Dev. Evoke|35 (5.83%)|

This seems to be the only relatively balanced bracket with representation; likely because you need coordination between DoT / hard CC / snares & a slew of tools to survive BM hunters regularly.

The data speaks for itself, how has this class not been adjusted. They are the HIGHEST IN EVERY BRACKET, even in 3s, though not as prominent.

Blizzard has this data, there is no way they do not.

DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

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Critical thinking is just a thing of the past I guess.

I wonder why warlock specs have the most first deaths tracked

Maybe it’s because not making them the primary kill target means your entire team is going to die in 30 seconds or less?

It doesn’t matter what season it is what the tuning is if there is a warlock you have to kill it or it’s gg.

Like dude I don’t want to flame or start an argument but assa/aff this season is the retwar of last expansion everyone is playing it for a reason and it seems like warlocks literally cannot help themselves but to make up a narrative that their class is not good when it always is

Ps: BM hunter should be nerfed to unviability for the foreseeable future

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Been saying it for weeks while the 3 resident aff locks argue with me

Your spec is no different than bm or fury.

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As with all data, it means very little without context

…but First Blood especially, is a metric that isn’t very useful by itself

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I’m looking more at shuffle specifically. Whether a spec is good or not a different claim.

The Dorito dude said aff is unlikable. In shuffle it is the second most killed spec. There’s no gray area here - it literally dies the most.

Can we use some critical thinking please?

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Hunter isn’t even that much stronger than any of these specs.

It’s just wayyy easier. Specs skill floor is prob the lowest in the entire game.

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