You keep telling people you don’t like grinds but RL is full if grinds.
How are you doing IRL?
Not for basic game functions like transportation.
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Use a ground mount, portal, zeplin, ect. then. 
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And SOME repetition and grinding is FUN in this game.
SOME of it sucks so bad its driven a lot of us to either quit…or contemplate quitting.
S’ok by me.
I had four wow accounts 2 months ago. Im down to one account right now. Lets see how quickly they push me into unsubbing the last one when SL’s comes out.
I can go play ESO just as easily and cheaply without the idiocy pulled in this game by blizzard on a number of fronts.
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If you don’t like pathfinder, don’t do it. Flying is required for exactly nothing in this game. There’s flight paths to everything now anyways…
Also, I don’t like the system or think it’s intuitive in the least but it’s the only option we have right now so I do it cause I want flying. I’d rather just pay an arbitrary amount of gold to unlock it at max level but doesn’t seem like that’s happening anytime soon. 
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Already have PF try again. You didn’t even address my point. Dismissive as always.
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ive done pathfinder 1. cant bring myself to dot he daily jog of pathfinder 2.
already cancelled.
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you just have to laugh at people who defend jokes like PF.
There isnt any getting them to comprehend how asinine something like PF actually is.
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I shouldn’t be gated from flying for almost a year after I’ve run a bunch of alts through everything.
If they want, make Part Two unlock flying for new patch zones. Part One should unlock flying for base expansion zones. There’s nothing wrong with the rep and running WQs on the ground for a bit until flying is unlocked. Especially since you hit Honored just by finishing the zone questlines anyway. Getting to Revered isn’t so bad.
But by the time I have Part One done, I’ve already run alts through all of those zones, too. Part Two gates flying from base expansion zones for no reason.
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No one said Pathfinder is hard. But it is tedious, boring, mind-numbing, arbitrary, unfun, unengaging, not dynamic and robs player agency.
Hope this helps all the stans that defend a poor system.
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in this case repitition does not scale with dificulty or competition so thats exactly why it needs to change or go away.
specific to the repetition part. Almost everyone i’ve seen is ok with doing the story and exploring
The important thing is, you really tried.
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I have no problem with grinding rep. That’s nothing new. I just hate that rep is tied to world quests.
I don’t even desire flying but I do care about other things tied to rep. I would like additional ways of grinding rep. I rather enjoyed the tabard path and even old fashion daily quests.
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That’s fair, but I don’t think the amount of grinding has actually changed that much over the course of the game. Vanilla, TBC, and WotLK for example were extremely grindy, with the length of the grinds involved more than offsetting uncapped grinding – for some reputations you’d still take several days to get to exalted even if you ground non-stop 24/7. The main thing that changed is that they switched from stupidly long grinds that could be ground out without limit to significantly shorter grinds that have a hard-capped minimum time to completion.
Good luck with your quest!
I’m nearly done with Draenor so it looks like we’re both working on some kind of PF. 
Requirements:
Battle for Azeroth Pathfinder part I:
Battle for Azeroth explorer: Complete the map by running into all the areas on the map
Wide world of quests: Do a 100 world quests
Ready for war: Do the entire war campaign for either side
Azerothian Diplomat: Hit exalted with Zandalari, Vouldani, Champions, Talanji, The Honorbound and Tortollan
Zandalar forever: Do all the story lines for each zone and the NPC ones after.
Pathfinder Part II:
Get revered with Rustbolt and Unchackled
Explore Mechagon: complete the map of Mechagon
Explore Nazjatar: Complete the map of Nazjatar
Battle for Azeroth Pathfinder part I: literally have this done to complete part II
It really isn’t that bad, and doing the storylines will give you a ton of rep that will get you into honored with each rep. Then light world quest gridnign will get you to exalted for part one. Literally just mainly ran azerite quests initially and got part one done passivly. Then part two is even easier as its just do the story, complete the map and passivly do wrold quests for azerite until you get enough rep. The only annoying one was rust but even then by doing the one world quest there gave you a ton of rep each time.
Dont get me wrong…I LOVE a lot of the little grinds in this game.
I got my camel mount and then did the grind again just for fun.
What I dont like is being coerced into it for a mode of travel.
It was a petulant, infantile move by blizzard to use flight to extort us into playing garbage cereal filler content they KNEW many of us wouldnt like.
And its driven me to quit once already.
If not for my nephew wanting me to play with him in game, Id still be at ESO right now exclusively.
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100%.
I also hate how the Pathfinder system forces the player to grind out rep. The lack of choice in the matter is what annoys me.
True story: Back in TBC/WotLK, I grinded out all the faction reps because I wanted the “Ambassador” title. No one else cared to do it in my guild/friend circle but me. They’d much rather PvP/PvE at max level. I liked that grinding rep was a choice I was making.
I also liked the multiple ways to grind rep - quests, dailies, dungeons (with the tabards to Revered) and material turn ins.
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LOL. A very high percentage of the people who claim they got pathfinder “just by playing the game normally” actually quit doing world quests the instant they got flight. So it really wasn’t any part of their normal playstyle.
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