Pathfinder: The Perfect Solution!

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I have a very solid proposal for Blizzard to improve the Pathfiinder situation in 9.0 and beyond. With this improvement the game will be greatly improved, players will be relieved of much misery and subscriptions will increase by millions.

But first, a disclaimer: I believe we should go back to the way it was where, for a small fee or a short quest chain we just get flight right off at max level. But the reality check is this: Ion, who is in control, says no to this. So I have come up with a solution that he can work with given his ground rule of “we must have a pathfinder”.

Solution:

First off, eliminate Pathfinder as an individual achievement. The ability to fly will no longer require individual players grind out rep with a score of different factions, complete quest chains or other odious requirements.

Second, make it a group effort. Instead of an individual achievement it would be a gamewide achievement. This is, after all, an MMORPG. So what would be required? Perhaps a first mythic kill of the first tier raid boss. Perhaps there would be some sort of a turn in, like we do with the battlefronts. And perhaps there would be some sort of a worldwide event that everyone would participate in. Or it would be some combination of the above.

But the bottom line is this: We would, as a group, reach the achievement together.

Thirdly, and most importantly this event would start at day one of the new expansion. Players, as soon as they were max level, would begin to work towards the goal together. And the timeline to flight would not be one year. It would be a first raid tier event so we are probably talking 3-4 months.

The advantage to my system is manifold. I have been grinding for 8-12 hours a day as have many others. So some of us will get flight long before others. That is unfair. And what about very casual players, alt lovers, players just dipping their toes into the game? Under the current system they are shut out of flight forever and we will probably lose them as members of our community.

Blizzard, please announce the implementation of my system as soon as possible. It will save the game; It will save the future.

And again, this is a real compromise. I want flight at max level, with a small fee. Ion doesn’t want flight at all, ever. This Great Rastlin Compromise is an appropriate middle ground that will be enjoyable. It will be a group effort, limited to a 3-4 months and allow everyone to fly simultaneously.

Thank You Blizzard for reading this and for rapid consideration of my proposal.

TLDR: Make pathfinder a world wide event group effort. Limit the effort to the first tier-3 or 4 months top. When complete, all players can fly simultaneously.

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Posting in a Rastlin thread!

Morning, good sir!

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Just make flight manatory, remove hover make a glypth to carry someone else.
Oh nevermind…

Small fee… All sent to those who earned it.
As more fokes earn it. You pay them as well.

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For those of us with jobs with odd hours, this isn’t a great solution.

Why can’t we just go back to buying flight with gold?

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I am not understanding your 3-4 month timelines. Mythic raid bosses are killed long before that when an expansion starts. It is more like within one week when the raid opens, i.e. when mythic raiding becomes possible - some guilds will kill mythic raid bosses first day.

This isn’t a bad idea but it makes no sense to tie it to raiding since this is an outdoor reward.

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A small fee of a million gold.

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For additional clarification My solution is perfect for people like you.

You do not have to do anything to get flight. There will be a worldwide severwide group effort. You contribute what you can, when you can.

Don’t worry, players like me will contribute as well!

And you will come home from work one day after a long shift and bing! You have flight. Just like everyone else. It will be a group effort.

Perfect for people with little play time!

The raid boss killing in this example is one part of the worldwide event and yes, it might be done within a week or two of the raid tier opening. To that, I say terrific!

We would all be rooting for someone to mythic first kill the raid boss even if we were not mythic raider because it is part of the group contribution.

Other components of my system might not yet be complete when the first boss goes down. Maybe there would still be some world events to complete or a turn in to finish or something like that so the overall timeline would be still 3-4 months with the mythic boss kill being just one step-albeit an important one step.

It is a group effort and it respects the fact that we have many adult players-some who literally grew up with this old game-who now have jobs, families and responsibilities and cannot play 12 hours a day.

So, yes, when the group has achieved the goal everyone gets flight.

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So if your system was implemented, I could either just do nothing, or at the very least, the bare mininum. And I’ll get flying?

Yeah… No thanks.

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No, not in any way shape or form am I ever going to put in enough effort to help others who put in zero effort.

Time and time again I see people doing absolutely nothing and gaining from it. AFK players in LFR who creep into normal raids. AFK players who do nothing but auto attack on rares, AFK players who participate in Warfronts, but hand in nothing and get loot for it.

I am sorry, there needs to be more individual rewards than group rewards in a game that players can benefit with no actual effort other than showing up.

Disclaimer: I also want flying back how it was, I am willing to compromise, but I won’t put in more effort just because now I have to also pick up the slack of the hundreds of thousands who refuse to put in effort along with the no-flyers who will purposely put in no effort to slow us down.

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Whew! I almost made a serious response to a Rastlin thread.

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Fixed that for you.

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Don’t waste your time trying to compromise. They’re not listening and your “compromise” is as bad as theirs anyway.

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Then it’s a good thing that there are no rewards involved whatever, because paying off a penalty to “earn back” what was taken from you is not a reward.

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So you’re saying WoW should have more social interactions and room for alting?
‘‘Blizzard Disliked That’’

I agree as a whole, this is good suggestions.

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no

to comunist.

would end up everyone who wanted flying would do the majority of the work and those who did nothing would get it for free.

Just like mythic raiders fuss about someone getting a mythic item without doing mythic raiding.

So no.

Just revert it to a non event.

Buy flying when you hit level 60 and fly forever more. Cost maybe 500 gold per toon, good for as long as that toon exists in all future and present content everywhere.

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The entire opening post is not– I repeat, not from Rastlin. This is easily proven by a simple, but complete linguistic and pattern analysis of the text.

Not once has the forger claimed to have his, or any other, face slapped.

Therefore, it’s is a forgery, a base canard, and a mockery of… well, Rastlin.

10/10 for making it almost seem like the sort of idiotic concept that he would propose, though.

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Or, on the other hand no.

I do not want a world wide event. One that could be intentionally set to take a year to complete.

Instead, I propose the following. Make each Pathfinder independent. Keep it how it is now. Complete zone chapters, explore, rep etc. When you get Pathfinder Part one you can fly in current content.

New zone has Pathfinder part 2. We can still fly in old zone but getting part 2 unlocks flight in that zone.

Somebody having flight before you does not make it unfair. It rewards their focused effort over yours.

It is my opinion that making it available per major patch would stem a lot of the outrage. It would calm the masses. But that could just be me.

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/popcorn

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Current system is fine as is. I’d rather not be reliant on other players to get something that progresses my character unless I’m running a raid, dungeon, battleground or arena.

Honestly, if there were improvements to be made, the only one that really comes to mind is that flying should be enabled the moment you unlock part 1, for zones that are available while you’re progressing through part 1. So if I were to use BFA for example, part 1 would unlock flying in every zone but mechagon and naz’jatar, and part 2 would unlock flying in those specific zones.

That way you still have to put in some effort instead of being able to lazily mooch of others (which is the real reason you’re suggesting this after all Rast, you just want others to unlock flying for you) but you won’t have to wait half a year or more to be able to fly.

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You can’t prove that.

No thanks… I don’t want my ability to fly to be dependent on someone else or the lack of someone else’s commitment… Much like you.

I would much rather they just stop it as part 1.