The poster suggested very few people do that kind of content, when in fact they themselves do quite a bit of it.
I would bet money that if given flying at the start of BFA, that player would be happy as a clam flying to all the world quests.
In other words, I would bet their issue isn’t the world quests or the reputation, it’s that they just want to have flying when they do them.
Honest to Bob, you must be so popular at parties. I mean really, you know people have differences of opinion. Personally I like Pathfinder, I wish they wouldn’t take so long to release part two that’s it. You may hate someone’s opinion but you are generally only getting likes from the same people who start weekly I hate PF threads. You can look through each, they have the same 5 people at the top calling everyone names like you do, same five with literal hundreds of posts in each thread filled with vitriol like yours. You are honestly not furthering your case using today’s buzzwords, I am sure if I go a bit further there will undoubtedly be an ok Boomer coming out of your mouth eventually.
I’ve had a few positive conversations on here with people whom I disagree with, and it was fun and productive, I felt. This player you’re responding to is not one of those people.
Pathfinder isn’t hard. It’s mind numbing tedium.
It’s sad, though. Anytime I even try to say I like PF I get the low brow kiddos who like to name call jumping up. You aren’t allowed to support anything Blizzard does these days. The mob mentality is worse than the Salem Witch Trials. If you aren’t on the hate train you must be a paid plant by blizzard or whatever country the armchair activists are hating on today, you are a white knight, or a shill, or you are simple because well reasons. I miss the good old forums, this is trash, no wonder most of the player base avoids it.
I find the second part of pathfinder boring and tedious, but would have no complaint if it’s just the first. Even the reps of the first are fine compared to nazjatar to me.
That being said, it doesn’t bother me if people like it. It’s a difference in opinion and anyone who insults you for liking it isn’t worth a response.
Same, I’d like to fly in part one zones, then get grounded in the new ones once they release til we complete them too. But pathfinder itself I love.
Of course. Because something that’s only existed since Warlords, while flying has existed since BC, is absolutely us being lazy and entitled.
Because gating flying for a year or more for no reason and never was for four expansions since its inception is us being so lazy and entitled.
I do loremaster and exploration anyway, I enjoy that aspect. The rep I don’t mind as long as it’s not completely stupid to get. Nazjatar specifically just sucks the life out of me.
When parts of a game feel more like chores than fun, and chores you are paying to do, that’s where it’s an issue for me. And since the devs wanted to remove flight, some of the tedious aspects of pathfinder and the time gating come across as spite.
Yeah but really even the rep in Naz only takes a few weeks. It’s not months, I am more than ok with being grounded for a short period of time.
Daily quests with flying != World quests to unlock flying. They feel and play completely differently. Dailies actually played better and didn’t make the world feel super small the way world quests do.
Doing one thing because you want to and not liking doing a different thing because you are coerced into it is not a contradiction. Just the simple fact that you “have” to do a thing makes it a chore. Even if you would have done it anyway, if you have any sense of autonomy and self-direction, you will bristle and buck against it.
I think you’re absolutely right here. My opinion is much of the outrage over pathfinder and restricting flying is exactly this sort of thing. People make up all sorts of “reasons” why x, y, and z are so horrible and bad and terrible, but at the end of the day, if they had flying from the start, they would be doing those things with no complaints.
Whether they did a lot of them or not has no bearing on whether other players did or not.
Matter of fact, if they have a lot of experience with that style of content, and have criticisms to the design of the content, that would tend to bolster their argument, not detract from it.
I do know that not everyone played solely for reputations in older expansions as getting The Exalted title wasn’t all that commonplace. Personally, reputations feel more of a requirement for casual players today in comparison.
I was responding in kind. My first post was a direct mirror of the OP! Or is it only poor behaviour when people you DON’T agree with do it?
If you’d read the thread with ANY kind of balanced perspective you’d see me agree with you that it’s only the year-long wait that’s a problem. Multiple times. But you instead picked a side, ignored name-calling and offensive mischaracterization from the side you agreed with, and then called it out when the other side mirrored it back to show the person how toxic they were being.
But I guess you are generally only getting likes from the same people who start weekly I hate people who hate PF threads. You can look through each, they have the same 5 people at the top calling everyone names like Varx did, same five with literal hundreds of posts in each thread filled with vitriol like his.
Only the ones that rep-locked the recipes you needed, the piece of gear that gave you a huge power spike, or the unique mount(s). People used to grind up single, selective reps and ignore the rest. Mount hunting, especially, was a lot more rewarding when grinding the rep was self-directed and the mounts were highly unique, like the Cenarion War Hippogryph.
The thing is, you can still pursue those reputations for the rewards on the quartermaster. That has not changed.
The only thing that changes is not being able to fly. It’s a QOL convenience feature. Nothing is stopping anyone from pursuing rep rewards.
Honest to Bob, do you feel better now? Get that all off your chest? All I was pointing out was your attacks, could have pointed out also that you don’t need to cap lock anything but hey, I guess I did now. You need a break, you shouldn’t get this worked up in a general discussion. Once you resort to name calling, most won’t take you seriously.
The point is that what has changed is that, if you want to continue using the flying mounts you collected in previous expansions, you can’t chose NOT to grind those reps anymore.
For the record, this is a really small issue. I still have full exalted on the Horde side, mostly for mount achieves. Light knows 95% of the BfA mounts are boring as watching grass dry. But between WQ’s and rep, one of those achievements is completely redundant. You’ll get the other in the course of competing it. Like having a “walk this far” and “take this many steps” achievements.
A drop to Honoured would be a nice touch, but 98% of the problems with Pathfinder is the delay for PT 2. I’m still kinda holding out hope that the jetpack and flying doombot in Mechagon was a test-run for a new paradigm in Pathfinder, where flight is permitted from day 1, but doesn’t act like a cloak of invisibility and immunity that keeps you safe when you afk over the hostile base 3 feet off the ground. That would be so much nicer for immersion and gameplay purposes.
Bob has never really earned my respect to a degree where I feel the need to open up to him in that way.
It was never on my chest. You were just being blinded by bias.
Mirroring someone’s behaviour back is not an “attack”.
Like… the word ‘any’? It’s an old habit from platforms that don’t support markup. And the forum’s /b and /i fonts are pretty weak, tbh.
How about dramatic eyerolls?
Ok you have a great day. I dealt with moody teens all through Christmas, I’m just gonna add you to my naughty list and know never to engage with you again. Happy gaming!