Pathfinder? Again? Lession not learned

There isnt anything to find, however.
the ‘accommodation’ here is to give them normal flight for the same amount of work I got Dragonriding for. Just about an hours worth of main questline.

Anything beyond that is the ‘slap in the face’ we hear so much about in here.

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Dude you have got to remove that chip from your shoulder it’s making you grumpy

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you have people completely invalidate your blizzard inflicted struggle and see how your tone comes off.

In real life people give me crap for my disability too, I’m channeling some of that quieted rage behind my smile in real life is all.

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That’s the thing. People are allowed to disagree. You don’t have to take it personal. There are other solutions.

And finally we don’t make policy. Why waste your time getting upset of people who don’t agree with you who have absolutely no power to change it?

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I am telling you “what is the problem at hand so one can deal with them” - again with the damn gaslighting

Hello, same here

Agreed, so let’s see what one can do - and if one can’t then yah’ its pretty damn bad

Which is what I already said

“Trying to dismiss people”? Asking for anything to show a problem and then looking up relentlessly to try to understand what ya’ll is talking about is apparently dismissing people? Trying to understand people is dismissing people?

“So unless I am misunderstanding something, this is still not a problem” - so what am I misunderstanding?

Care to explain what the actual issue is?
I am looking for an explanation and all you can do, alongside with most others is call folks for ableists for trying to figure out how to solve issues and have a conversation about them and when ya’ don’t do that … ya’ gaslight people

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Catharsis is a hell of a drug

But also I suppose the other reason, if people want to make me feel bad just for a disability I never chose to have, I want them to feel bad too. I’m going to keep pointing out these types of people, humans are emotional animals. and this matters alot to me.

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I don’t understand that one at all. He’s got all gold achievements for dragon racing. I can understand being frustrated, but I don’t get the sheer amount of drama. Can’t decide if trolling or not.

You know me. I never give people the benefit of the doubt when it comes to trolling.

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Sure there is. How do you operate normal flight/sky swimming thing? You press a button (space bar) and aim the mouse. How do you operate DR? You press a button “UP” aka “Skyward Assent” and aim the mouse.

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sometimes you have to ignore the apathetic.
Theyre literally not worthy of your energy and time investment

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I have no intention of going back and forth here, friend.
normal flight IS coming.
It SHOULD have come sooner.
It SHOULD have been NO more complicated than the simple hours questing the rest of us got DRing for.

Flight IS the remedy here…for the SAME work we did for DRing.

Thats my last response to your line of assertions/questions here.

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See, this is why you can’t seem to have conversations with people. Because I never once at all in any thread claimed this about anyone.

I asked people to please try to understand how not all disabilities are the same.

And if you are agreeing with me on the major points… why the heck are you even arguing??

It’s just mind boggling. I can’t even.

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prob part of their disability, and I don’t mean that in a “put down”

many folks get stuck in their own narrative.

Yea it sure is laughable that blizzard would require pathfinder for a slower flying…
Other to to say redacted you to the players

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So you have no answer as to why or how someone can sky swim but can’t DR-slowmode?

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am i the only one who would rather just fly on my dragon lmao

It’s not really flying though, more like glorified gliding

And the dragon “runs out of gas” unless you’re constantly tipping the nose down/playing a “mini game” with your fingers, very interesting gameplay sitting afk on the ground for like 2 minutes while it “recharges” :laughing:

Meanwhile, with an actual flying mount I just point the mount up and it goes straight up without playing a “mini-game” or “running out of gas”. I can afk-hover safely away from packs of mobs and pats too, which is a huge plus for me

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Sky swimming is much easier to be accurate with, especially to hit small landing spots like are somewhat common with resource nodes. Hover is also invaluable and not possible with DR. That said, DR is better immersion and feels more like flight as opposed to swimming.

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The guy in between your responses, but you did gaslight the crap out of me when this was the same conversation a while ago simply because I was saying that traditional flying is bad for the overall health of the game but that it should remain; you read that somehow as meaning that I wanted it removed so folks with disabilities couldn’t fly

I fundamentally agree with you, but I don’t get the underlying problems that people have with Dragonriding except that it is difficult on the motor skills - but all the flights in terms of the quest are essentially straight lines, and just to test it I went out and tried it using just my mouse with limited movement, ignoring the upgrades (as in taking into account how much vigor and everything I should have accessible to me at that point) and skills and everything

By remapping my mouse I could do it with just gliding

I am trying, DESPERATELY SO, to understand what the actual problem folks are having because everyone just says the same damn thing:
“Think of the disabled people”, I am - I want stuff to be accessible to the game, but I don’t want to be called an ableist by folks even if in your case its largely just implied so probably don’t take that to meaning directly in regards to you though in that case

I am not arguing, I am trying to understand - that’s literally been the entire point
Because every single thing I can find whether by testing it myself, looking it up, considering people’s anecdotes, or anything and everything I can just come to this simple conclusion:

Dragonriding is at most annoying to the point where its a chore for some folks with disabilities, so doing races ain’t up for it - but we ain’t talking races we are talking about literally gliding for a few seconds here and there and nothing else

And for those who have such a serious disability where its not feasible at all they are limited to the degree where they have to rely on others, which again means that the whelpling system does exist for that reason - heck I am trying to figure out whether one can do that or not, I am trying to figure out what the actual limitations are so I can understand the system so I can advocate for where it needs to be improved so one can fix these issues

The only thing that is mind boggling in all of this is how this gets read wrong, to the degree that it seems intentional, again and again here and in other threads

I am not arguing for anything to be removed, I am arguing for things to be fixed so it doesn’t screw over the game or screw over people - I don’t get how this is so insanely difficult to understand
Literally the only reason I am providing this to you specifically is because I value your takes on stuff and I agree with ya’, so it is insanely frustrating that most of this seems to go in one ear and out as something completely different to you, and I don’t get why since I actually agrees with you - not to 100%, but enough where I know that you and I want the same thing (to like 90%+)

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and you would be wrong… but I do like playing druids.