Patch 8.3: Peace Treaty Questline

Probably just means that Gallywix was cut from whatever plotline the Sylvanas loyalists have next expansion.

I feel like itā€™s a bit more important when it comes to faction leaders, even if it is the goblin leader.

It really canā€™t end. Sorta needs to exist for PvP to happen. Hopefully they quit it with the open conflict stuff and go back to the Cold War it was in Vanilla and BC.

The Horde and Alliance at the end of the day exist on a world with finite resources so theyā€™ll always be clashing for that. I imagine territorial disputes will continue. Plus in the wake of BFA thereā€™s plenty of fresh reasons to kill eachother out of sheer spite as well.

And from a meta perspective the faction system is backed into the game and was such a winning formula that most other MMORPGs copy off it to this day. Thatā€™s why a war campaign expansion is inherently going to disappoint. There can be no total victory nor real peace. The status quo will remain as such even when the entire story seems to scream for it to be upended.

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Ion already addressed this, they are ok with wm being a thing without a lick of story.

Tbh I still think the plan behind that is to consolidate servers. RP and Non-RP are the only distinctions now so itā€™ll be easier to absorb any dying ones into a healthy one.

Plus Iā€™ll admit my annoyance at WM aside PVP talents were a fantastic idea. Allows for direly needed abilities that might break a classā€™s balance in PvE content. Iā€™m not surprised itā€™s staying in.

IF itā€™s Red vs. Blue, itā€™s as faction conflicted as you can get.

Arenas arent red vs blue, and you know theres been xpacs with little to no pvp content right? I dont see why they need to tie the story when no one cares, like Ion said at blizzcon, We can have pvp for the sake of the pvp gameplay and also ignore it in the story for the stories sake.

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There was little PvP content in this. There were Invasion Points I guess. But Iā€™d say 8/10 times one faction dominated them. It was rare for me to get into fair fights. Normally it was a Red or Blue throng just rampaging through you had to either hoped passed in time or sneak around.

Outside of that we got the Azerite BG which is fun. PvP expeditions which Iā€™ve only done for the Essence. And a couple of new arenas that are at best tangentially related to the Battle For Azeroth.

Seriously how is there not one Zandalar VS Kul Tiras BG? Like I just presumed that was a guarantee but instead thereā€™s the Azerite one - like that was a relevant plot thread.

Ion Hazzikostas: This is an armistice. This isnā€™t holding hands and forgiving and forgetting. You know, thereā€™s a large portion of the Alliance that are like, ā€œHey, literally you just committed genocide against a portion of our group.ā€ Weā€™re not just gonna put bygones- to say bygones are bygones and move on from there.

Q: After the War campaign, the Horde seem to be at peace, but the Alliance seems to be in unrest, will this continue to be explored?

Steve Danuser: War has an impact on every culture, that not only takes part in it, but suffers in the wake of these two great powers of Azeroth, brutally fighting each other for the last couple of years. We wanted to show that in a character driven way. So people canā€™t come out of a war like this, as bitter and vengeful as it was, and just go back to business as usual. We fully intend for the repercussions of Battle for Azeroth to echo through our characters, our cultures, our World for a long time to come. Itā€™s going to take a while for people to come to terms with all the repercussions of this. Even though new threats are on the horizon, even though Nā€™Zoth is coming for the world, even though the Shadowlands are out there, this war has a very personal impact on the world and weā€™ll see that echo through Azeroth throughout the years.

When the writers eventually have the Horde start the next war in a way that outdoes the Burning of Teldrassil (as the Burning of Teldrassil outdid the destruction of Theramore), how much more over the top can it get without bumping up the gameā€™s rating to Mature?

Edit: Also GALLYWIX INNOCENT

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Maybe the impact will echo through Azeroth throughout the years so they donā€™t need to try to one-up Teldrassil?

Maybe itā€™ll echo long enough for us to get the Alliance breaking the armistice and initiating conflict next time!

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inb4 gallywix becomes warchief and destroys mechagon killing a bunch of gnome children.

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Not a huge loss.

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says the gnome, but i get it. gnomes arenā€™t the greatest

Those things arenā€™t gnomes. Theyā€™re toasters with an ego.

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Maybe make the entire expansion like the Tournament in Ice Crown.

PVP becomes personal challanges against each other in competions.

The WOW Olympics!

arent the gnomes and the garbage living together? since gelbin became king?

Lorā€™themar can now die in fire for betraying Lady Liadrin.

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To be fair, that has been blizzards style of presenting story elements since like cata. Possibly earlier. Where you wouldnā€™t normally play something to see the full storyline of something. It is like if you want to see the 1st half of the invasion of Gilneas, roll a worgen and do the starting zone. Want to see the 2nd half? Roll a horde toon and do Silverpine Forest.

The class order halls are another example of this. As someone already mentioned, you wouldnā€™t know that Amber died unless you did the rogue campaign. Or that Bolvar created a new set of four horsemen unless you did the DK campaign.

Considering that you can easily read up on these through things like wowpedia and wowhead, I can see why blizzard would take this approach.

this just means that i can console lady liadrin

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I like Valeera well enough but sheā€™s not a leader of anything. She should be in the corner holding Shalamayne or something.

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