Patch 8.1 and Cross-Faction Roleplay

[Ebbonyi-wyrmrest-accord]

You are allow to have your view on things, but you are trying to start a fight with many people here that enjoy the RP. Our servers for Roleplayers is small compare to the Normal and PvP servers as there are also a few RPvP servers too. Yet the actions you are trying to do is not working, I am sorry to say this and will do my best to make this come out nice. If you want to bring the RP community down with your one sighted views, I am sorry to say you are loosing. Best to get out of this forum and troll someone else ‘OR’ play nice to everyone here.

‘You can lead a Horse to water, but you can’t force the Horse to drink the Water.’

[Izael-illidan]

Lots of threads can be positive. That doesn’t mean exploiting the game to cross faction speak should be allowed. You know there are races like Blood Elves and Void Evles that can speak Thalasian as a racial. Your addon trivializes that ability and makes it useless.

[Etutreescar-moon-guard]

It isn’t exploiting if the devs themselves said the addon was ok to use and not breaking ToS.

[Zenrao-wyrmrest-accord (Zenrao)]

I certainly hope everyone remembers that we’re here to show support, and not feed trolls! Giving into people trying to start conflict will only hurt this thread.

Remember why we’re here! Because we love RP, and we love Cross RP!

[Zandrae-wyrmrest-accord (Zandrae)]

In the spirit of keeping the conversation supportive and on track, per Tammy’s request, I put forth a question to all of you who have used Cross RP:

What’s been your favorite event (or top three, if you’ve been to a lot and can’t pick) that you’ve attended where Cross RP was in use, that would’ve otherwise not happened, or been really difficult to orchestrate without it?

Wyrmrest Discord has 15 moderators. Many of us are balls of social anxiety and we don’t RP as often as we want to, or we don’t RP at all because… anxiety.

The other day we decided to load up Cross RP, go to a tavern in Pandaria, and just hang out for a while. The results were hilarious, we had a good time, and we got to bond as a team by having fun together and goofing off.

It was a good thing for our team and for the community we run.

[Tathel-moon-guard (Tathel)]

In the spirit of keeping the conversation supportive and on track, per Tammy’s request, I put forth a question to all of you who have used Cross RP:

What’s been your favorite event (or top three, if you’ve been to a lot and can’t pick) that you’ve attended where Cross RP was in use, that would’ve otherwise not happened, or been really difficult to orchestrate without it?

Tournament of Ages for sure!

There’s also a group full of friends of mine that get together to cross faction rp in Booty Bay for piratey stuff. Very faction neutral.

[Cambor-wyrmrest-accord]

I support the author of this thread and addon. The lore doesn’t support not being able to talk to each other, the game’s own NPCs don’t support not being able to talk to each other, several races now don’t support not being able to talk to each other, and basic logic doesn’t support not being able to talk to each other (learning a foreign language is not easy but it’s certainly not impossible and especially in times of war, it’s imperative).

WoW by itself has never been sufficient to keep me playing it–other players have. The fewer players I can talk to, the more likely I am to stop playing. Simple as that.

[Huatar-wyrmrest-accord]

This game was designed to have separate factions that can’t communicate. People can always faction change or make toons in the other faction if they want to communicate.

This game was also originally designed without flight in mind.
It was designed for 40-man raiding to be the pinnacle of of high-end content.

Years pass and things change.

[Domína-moon-guard]

If you want to bring the RP community down with your one sighted views, I am sorry to say you are loosing. Best to get out of this forum and troll someone else ‘OR’ play nice to everyone here.

Sigh

Yes, be rude and impolite and put actions to my words so they make sense to you.

I want a roleplaying community without boundries, but at the same time I want roleplaying guilds that don’t use lengthly, job application long applications to join those guilds.

This is a good step in a direction, but it’s probably not the best step in the direction that you think it’s in.

But hey, apparently I’m just here to give my opposing opinion and get smashed on like I’m trolling.

[Raithioss-moon-guard (Raithioss)]

the[quote=“Izael-illidan, post:355, topic:45663, full:true”]
This game was designed to have separate factions that can’t communicate. People can always faction change or make toons in the other faction if they want to communicate.
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is not true. it’s been talked about in the past that during alpha vanilla, it was doable, but ppl were being diks and so blizzard did a absolute fix. now years/decades later ppl made a fix to what is strictly only a mechanic and has little to no lore base: the factions in lore all speak a universal language: so no “just faction change” doesnt solve a roleplay issue.

[Vellinthria-wyrmrest-accord (Vellinthria)]

In the spirit of keeping the conversation supportive and on track, per Tammy’s request, I put forth a question to all of you who have used Cross RP:

What’s been your favorite event (or top three, if you’ve been to a lot and can’t pick) that you’ve attended where Cross RP was in use, that would’ve otherwise not happened, or been really difficult to orchestrate without it?

1. Tournament of Ages. That was the best, by far, event that used it imo. The previous ones where you would have to add people to battle net to talk to people was not only somewhat dangerous, it really wasn’t condusive to rp since you could only talk to the one person.
2. Any of the Succulent Tart events. My main is with them, and she performs with them as well and the Hallows End event was amazing. It was one of my favorites since I have been in it.
3. The Howling Owl Events. While I’m sorta self-promoting, I really do love the events that Alaris and Roma come up with. They’re really well thought out, and I just really enjoy working with them and seeing as they are a cross faction coffee shop, to not have crossrp is devastating.

[Tammya-moon-guard]

I give my input, and that’s not constructive? I’m adding to the conversation, but since it’s a different opinion than the users… I’m a troll? Do you not respect a difference of opinion?

I’m honestly not sure why people are getting a bit heated in here, and I really do appreciate you adding your concerns and spurring on discussion.

People are allowed to disagree with Cross RP’s purpose too, and I know that a negative opinion towards it is shared by a good handful, and those opinions are important to not ignore.

For that very reason is why I was very careful during implementation, to try and disturb as little as possible those who want the original game experience. Like this is in the header of the source file, written as soon as the project started as one of the goals:

--  * Respect for the faction divide. We don't want this to be an "exploit".
--     We're merely using the features that are offered to us, i.e. the 
--     Battle.net community chat.

The faction divide is a core Warcraft principle in the sort of gameplay the devs want to present (just watch the IT MATTERS commercials), but it’s my opinion that RP realms should be a little more lenient in this regard. Cross RP isn’t perfect, and the best I can do for any corner cases is to just encourage people to play nice.

Still, I give the argument that “you can already do it now” with the Blizzard Group communities, but it’s just very unwieldy to do on a large scale in an RP event (and you don’t get the extra goodies like RP profiles).

[Alison-moon-guard (Alison)]

Honestly most of the vocalized minority-opinion I’ve seen thus far can be mitigated from the fact that this addon in particular was Opt-In and negative experiences described are hypothetical in nature.

This was a great addon that had a lot of gating to prevent abuse. If you don’t like it, then that’s fine; you’re not its target user. lol

[Vorawsoul-moon-guard (Vorawsoul)]

Let’s keep it civil ladies and gents.

[Raithioss-moon-guard (Raithioss)]

If you want to bring the RP community down with your one sighted views, I am sorry to say you are loosing. Best to get out of this forum and troll someone else ‘OR’ play nice to everyone here.

Sigh

Yes, be rude and impolite and put actions to my words so they make sense to you.

I want a roleplaying community without boundries, but at the same time I want roleplaying guilds that don’t use lengthly, job application long applications to join those guilds.

This is a good step in a direction, but it’s probably not the best step in the direction that you think it’s in.

But hey, apparently I’m just here to give my opposing opinion and get smashed on like I’m trolling.

how does guild applications deal cross-rp communication?

[Izael-illidan]

Same goes with things like flying, but that still got taken away.

[Kharris-wyrmrest-accord]

I have enjoyed the ToA and one of my guild’s events has a heavy CrossRP use because we’re a neutral group. So getting to chat with my ‘guildmates’ across the borders and meet new RPers and branch out.

I remember ToA before this addon and it was a MESS of of “____ makes some strange gestures” and such ooph. Just difficult to really deal with or feel immersed in. It was smooth and lovely this year.

[Domína-moon-guard]

how does guild applications deal cross-rp communication?

It’s another gripe that I wanted to mention that I have with the roleplaying community, I’ll answer that question in another thread as it will go too off-topic, and derail the thread.

[Hyriin-wyrmrest-accord]

You seem to have a lot of built-in anger, perhaps contacting a therapist would help?

[Etutreescar-moon-guard]

Flying wasn’t taken away, it was removed from expansion get-go. We were still able to fly in WoD and Legion, it required getting achievements. So again, your arguement has little validity.