I get that cross-faction harassment exists. That’s bad. But here’s the important part:
I don’t care. Neither should Blizzard.
Let’s get our priorities straight: Our RP, cross-faction or otherwise, is far more more important than mere harassment prevention.
No one can rely on strangers on the internet to protect people from strangers on the internet. It’s blisteringly nonsensical, laughable in every way. Common sense seems to be so rare, it’s almost a superpower. The world is filled with awful people that have awful intentions, and heaven forbid that someone’s child should ever discover that horrifying truth!
It’s not like someone could turn off CrossRP if someone is bothering them.
…Oh wait, it does that automatically every time you log out & back in.
It’s not like WoW has a mature content filter.
…Oh wait, it does, and it’s even enabled by default.
It’s not like someone can make an alt to harass someone cross-faction.
…Oh wait, they can, it’s unstoppable, and can only be enforced after-the-fact.
Rip the band-aid off already, and natively integrate cross-faction chat into the game’s chat box. Just give it an on-off button. And remember that people are already communicating cross-faction. Smart people are OP, and Blizz can never stop them.
You’ve been lambasting the idea of this tool and it seems like most of your criticism is at Blizzard and not the feature itself. The most I can say is Big Mood tbh
RP realms and the communities within are the only thing that keeps me suscribed to this game. Nowadays I just log on , do a couple of dailies and maybe level an alt, game isn’t really doing it for me, but there is always something that I enjoy about warfcraft, its the massive Lore and all the players that find a niche on it.
Really sad that Blizzard neglects the roleplaying community. Not only we have to deal with fewer and fewer RP suitables places but also the current Phasing / Sharding Issues are a huge problem for roleplayers and yet Blizzard decides to destroy those interactions we manage to build to keep the game alive.
Please fix the problem with the addon or just enable Cross faction communication for RP realms only.
“Stuff that I like got taken away so everything that gets taken away is good so people feel just as bad as I do” isn’t an argument you can make in good faith.
Anyway, other people have already said the events that I would put, but I’d also like to add the Nighthaven events that went on on Wyrmrest Accord for a while. They gave my little wannabe-Vindicator orc a good way to tie her story into the faction conflict, and were a lot of fun besides.
The thing that was nice about the crossRP system was that it was entirely opt-in, and a bit of a hassle to join if I’m being honest, especially for large events like ToA where the community was near-constantly full. But at the same time, the feature was important. If roleplayers wanted to preserve the faction barriers, they could. Even with installing the addon, they wouldn’t be able to communicate cross-faction without joining the appropriate community and clicking a button to start the session in-game.
The addon was convenient for those who orchestrated events that are meant to be cross-faction, but has no real negative value to those who prefer to avoid communication with the opposite faction.
So to anyone who might be saying they don’t WANT to be able to communicate with the opposite faction, that’s fine. Don’t install the addon, or join the community, or click the “start session” button. But that doesn’t mean NOBODY should be allowed to use it, especially when it doesn’t violate ToS or cause any substantial damage to the overall game experience.
Well, I brought up the Tournament of Ages already (as did many other people). That’s number 1 for sure.
A couple weeks ago there was the Pandaren Harvest festival, which I thought was beautiful and very moving. A lot of good vibes were had there.
And lastly - any of the last couple of Succulent Tart shows! There are some supremely talented performers in this community and I love seeing their work - and I love even more being able to bring my established characters rather than create new ones for the purpose.
I don’t believe Blizzard bans cross-faction chat due to harassment concerns. They’ve stated that it’s to “spur on a healthy rivalry.” (And I think everyone knows just how much less-experienced players get harassed in battlegrounds by their own team.)
When you can’t understand another player, it encourages you to not get along, and that’s what they want. They want you to be rivals. You’re encouraged to harass them more/kill them when you can’t understand them.
I can agree with their decision to have this faction divide with the gameplay it brings, but at the same time, it doesn’t really allow you to RP, so I think it makes sense to have different rules on RP realms.
Lending my support as well, although I only had the addon for less than a week, I have fallen in love with it. I never loved RPing on my druid more than I have in years. I rp’d with so many druids in the druid classhall and having a generally good time plotting and making new friends with the addon as well as being able to finally get back in touch with old Horde friends whom I havent even rp’d with since like… MoP.
Please fix it blizz, this is one of the few things that is keeping me playing.
ok. so using tht past addon, yes it shouldnt exist because it wasn’t really a controlled feature.
get addon
get on character
now can talk cross faction
and yes,trolls would def abuse it.
HOWEVER, what you’re either purposfully overlooking…or not getting.
cross-rp was a constant opt in. if you were afk, it kicked you off
if you logged off,it kicked you off.
and then it was tied to the bnet communites, meaning at most only 1k ppl could use it per community and they could be booted if they harassed ppl,so literally …being a d-bag was kinda low in actuality.
Cross RP has been beneficial for both personal and large scale events for almost everyone in my guild. I support finding some solution to allowing this addon to work once more, hopefully before the next super popular large scale server event.
That’s the thing, though. With your add on, you can actually improve the cross faction hostility even more so than you can with the system they have in place. You can actually see how someone is sneering at you or talking smack about your character instead of seeing ‘makes a rude gesture’ that could really mean anything at all.
It added to gameplay value more than you could ever do with just going and fighting against people in pvp or whatever. In that respect, the game play and aggression against the opposing faction that much worse and I don’t know if they actually see that side of things.
People like YOU make the addon so much more worth it too. even though yes you don’t use it, but Super dedicated horde or alliance characters much like yourself seeing those of their faction interacting with their opposite faction the rage and betrayal they feel In character? It brings so much more to the rp community as well.
I dunno, unless they like… literally found a way to tamper with the code of it, the rules seem pretty solid. /shrug. Maybe I forgot something about it, cold’s been kicking me around with that.
I’m not sure if it can really be exploited, because even if someone were to edit the Lua code and lift the restrictions, they can’t do that to their “victim.” Both sides would have to modify the files (and basically consent) to lessening their faction barrier.
I can see it being exploited if someone were to distribute the modified source on a large-scale and somehow get a lot of people interested, but that’s just scummy, and I highly doubt someone would be interested in managing something like that, at that scale.
My guild runs a cross-faction tavern (in a space that’s pretty much unused/abandoned - Tol Barad) once per week. Cross RP has been an incredible boon to both our guild communications (we have a guild on each side) and fostering more RP for others in the community on multiple servers.
We’ve had exactly zero issues with griefing/harrassment using this addon. For all the “what ifs” people are bringing up about exploitation…it’s very easily moderated. It’s already been designed incredibly well to prevent griefing/harassment/trolling.
Blizzard, please fix this. I’ve been a paid subscriber off and on (on more than off!) for 12 years. The reason I keep returning to this game is roleplay with my friends, including the ones I’ve made cross faction.
No, I understand this, as I’ve stated to other people.
I’ve been educated on how the addon operates, but my opinion still stands. As all addons are open source under Blizzard’s API, there’s not much preventing someone from taking the addon, removing the blocks and suddenly doing potentially nefarious and malicious activities with the addon.
Are there any actual cases of this addon being used for harassment or anything people have concerns about? Cases that can ONLY be achieved through this specific addon and not through regular /s, or party chat, or bnet whispers?
I’m just curious about if we’re speaking purely in hypotheticals or if this addon has actually been abused in the way people are saying it might be.