Just curious about something. In an all random pug the other day one of the people there passed some gear to another–and without letting it be rolled on by others who could use it. Someone in the group got really mad about it and then left the raid. All I could think was why? But I have been in the same situation where the person who got the gear did not let all who could use the item fairly roll, and it sure felt bad. Why does this happen? Has this happened to you, and what did you do about it?
Edit: And better even still, what could Blizzard or an addon developer do in the way of some kind of automatic system to remedy this headache/turn off/problem?
Nothing really. It’s their gear to pass, disenchant, etc.
I have asked only once for gear, it was a humming black dragonscale that was a 450% upgrade for my tank and the person said nope (they already had 470 trinkets but meh maybe the haste/wings proc was something they wanted).
I went about my own business and got it later.
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I find it really interesting people get mad over this…
In truth, that person won that piece of gear… so… they can do with it as they so please. If they want to give it to their friend? Ok, cool! If they want to disenchant it? Ok whatever.
They’re not obligated to give anyone the chance to roll on it at all.
Edit to your edit: I don’t think this is rly a problem? People just need to realize it’s a game. If they want to get mad that someone didn’t use their loot the way they wanted them to… that’s their problem.
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its gear,its rule. if he want people to roll of he offer it in chat or give it to someone else.
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Blizzard does not need to step in for every negative interaction. It’s not the group’s loot to divide out anymore he’ll if he wants to hand it over to someone based on their transmog it is his item he can do that.
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It doesn’t matter what anyone feels in this situation.
The person it drops for can do whatever they want with it.
When people ask others to roll for it, they do it because they want to.
It certainly isn’t a requirement.
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Just to clarify, it is my understanding that nobody was friends in the group. And I felt as if now the second guy was obliged to help the first guy out, which would again exclude the others. It just struck me as unfair, and something I would never do because it would create trouble and ill will. But does nobody care about that but me and the people who are unfairly excluded from a fair shot at gear?
I trade it to the person with the worst gear i see most the time… or if the tanks under geared ill give it to him. i dont let anyone roll
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They had the fair shot when the boss died. Secondary rolls are up to the person that won it. Maybe they saw them trying really hard, maybe they saw that they were wearing a green with horrible stats, maybe it’s maybelline.
Anyone who would rage about something like this isn’t the type of person I’d want to be rewarding in the first place. The moment you assume you have the right to someone else’s winnings is the moment I disregard your existence. Asking is one thing expecting is another.
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When you get a drop do you ask everyone to roll in case its a bigger upgrade for them than it was for you? What it its only 6 ilvl up for you but 26 for someone else?
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Sure, it’s just a game, but one of the central things everyone who plays wow is after is progress, and gear means progress. So, if you don’t care about gear and progressing your character why do you play this game? There are loads of other games where you don’t progress a character at all. Hence, people who play wow want gear, and naturally would want a fair shot at it.
If its a upgrade for you, you wont be able to trade
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Not really, I certainly don’t feel that way. I just feel like if I don’t get it on that occasion I’ll get it on another one! 
Part of what I like about this game is crafting profession because the mats needed to upgrade those are 100% (which I think is awesome cause it’s guaranteed my current trinket and ring ;P)
It feels especially good to give something nice to a newer player. Not saying that is what happened, but gifting gear shouldn’t be policed any more than it already is.
And people are also free to leave a group any time. Sometimes there are consequences, but again, it’s not something that needs policing.
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I am not talking about that. I am talking about gear that is not needed by the person who gets it. What you are saying is like saying if you buy stuff on sale, it is not as good as stuff you pay full price for. But just because you paid less for it does not mean it is of no value to you. The gear is the same gear it was when the boss dropped it as when the guy who got it did not need it and passed it to someone else at the exclusion of others. It helped the guy who got it to the exclusion of others, one of whom felt shafted. And in my view, that was due to the carelessness of both the guy who got it from the boss and the guy who got it from the other guy. They both cared nothing about others who could also use the item.
Oh also if people spam whisper me for it without me saying anything ill DE it right in front of them
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Why do I feel like we’re getting a very specifically framed incomplete story?
How did you know that the loot winner gave it to someone else? Did the person who got it ask for it? If you also wanted it, maybe you should have said something about it. Or did the person who looted the item just randomly hand it off to someone else in the group? Maybe they wanted to just keep things moving, looked at the nearest person’s gear and lobbed it at them because it was an upgrade for them.
It doesn’t sound like there was any dire violation of etiquette from what little you’ve described about the situation.
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You took that out of context. Read your post, then read mine again.
Because it seems you’re so single minded and upset over not getting gear from someone else, let me explain it again.
This is a game. Someone else got gear and would like to use it a certain way and are entitled to do that. Getting upset because they decided to use it differently than how you would is ridiculous. If they want to disenchant it instead of giving it to you… Then fine. Maybe you can run it again next week and it’ll drop for you. BUT AS I SAID. It is a game, it is nothing to get upset over especially when it wasn’t your loot anyway.
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Why would you do that? Do you always feel happy when making others feel bad? I feel the opposite when I make others happy versus making them feel bad. If someone messages me twice, maybe they think I didn’t see their message the first time, or maybe they really want the item a lot. In the case of them really wanting something, I would feel very good about giving them the item (assuming nobody else needed it–under the conditions of which I would definitely put the item up for a roll).
Honestly, I don’t understand your attitude. It is very disruptive and would make me hate myself deep down.
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I have, more than once, just opened trade to the lowest HP player.
Plenty of wholesome reasons for this situation to occur.
Generally speaking, I will ask for a roll on tradable stuff I don’t need, but not always.
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