Paladins, both Retribution and Protection

Williams-akama · April 30, 2019, 1:05am

That would be very interesting to see how it works out.

Felorean-shadowmoon · April 30, 2019, 1:33am

I’d rather pug for another dps worth their weight than invite a ret into my group even if they were from the guild

Böösey-destromath · April 30, 2019, 1:56am

A Ret Paladin can off heal in situations that need big heals.
As well as sacrifice themselves to save the raid.
DPS is not the only thing to factor in. Gauranteed in Naxx Ret Paladins are going to be doing big DPS with the undead.

The stigma against Hybrids is real lol.

There are going to be lots of Feral Druid tanks in Classic tanking all raid tiers.

Theloras-llane · April 30, 2019, 4:00am

Naljara-korialstrasz · April 30, 2019, 4:32am

cool story.

Felorean-shadowmoon · April 30, 2019, 4:44am

thanks bro

Ryzix-dragonmaw · April 30, 2019, 3:13pm

In PvP they are decent.
In PvE they are either holy or they just hold everyone else back.

They are squishy as all hell vs raid bosses, and can’t hold aggro for crap.
Ret DpS is just terrible. In many situations Holy still out dps ret. It’s that bad.

Only thing other 2 pally specs are good for in PvE is soloing dungeons. Which arguably BM hunters/Ferals/Locks are better at. And mages run low level dungeons faster.

Theloras-llane · April 30, 2019, 3:16pm

Nermal-echo-isles · April 30, 2019, 5:29pm

If you’re that scared of losing your precious raid spot to a Paladin that has to overcompensate to the extreme just to be halfway decent, then by all means keep trolling.

Or make some Holy Paladins such that the ones that DO overcompensate get locked out of raiding because there’s just no need for another Paladin of any spec.

Galbados-twisting-nether · May 2, 2019, 1:47am

Pretty sure in Vanilla it was only from fleeing. I don’t think the “limiting the afflicted target to 100% run speed only” applied until TBC.

Sabetha-turalyon · May 2, 2019, 1:53am

Yeah in Vanilla it just prevents NPCs from doing the whole “X runs away in fear” thing.

Useful in certain dungeons, but otherwise does nothing in PvP.

Zeliek-moon-guard · May 2, 2019, 2:31am

Except for making your target immune to fear, psychic scream, or intimidating shout. Used to duel my pvp partners to give them 30 sec of immunity before killing warriors, warlocks, and priests. Not really feasible anymore though with 10 sec. duration and all.

Didn’t play warlock enough to confirm CoRecklessness giving immunity to fear but I’m sure it’s the same way.

Williams-akama · May 2, 2019, 3:02am

CoR indeed provided you with fear immunity.

I always loved it when some derp would “curse” my priest with such a fine buff because it made me nearly god in PvP.

Swani-arathor · May 2, 2019, 4:14am

It sure did. Good warlocks would use on top of a fear in dungeons, in order for the mob to not run too far away. Once hit with CoR it will begin to return, then just hit it with another curse, and re-activate the fear effect. People who wasn’t used to this gimmick normally freaked out when using fear in dungeons

Zeliek-moon-guard · May 2, 2019, 6:56am

I’m going to need to give this a shot cause that is awesome.

Destrian-arygos · May 2, 2019, 11:49am

Okay, my bad, I just remember it being a thing at one point.

Solanaria-sisters-of-elune · May 2, 2019, 12:14pm

whispers quietly “Shockadin”

Ryzix-dragonmaw · May 2, 2019, 2:38pm

AKA more viable than ret or prot.

Seriously though… a Spirit stacking Holy Priest does more DPS than Ret.

Williams-akama · May 2, 2019, 3:38pm

I love making fun of retribution just as much as the next guy, and comparing them to my pet, but you’re just being totally ridiculous, and that’s not even remotely true.

Nermal-echo-isles · May 3, 2019, 12:10am

I think this is more possible than we realize…