Paladin: Switching to shield should trigger Avenger's Shield CD

Just this. Unless it was part of the design that players could just macro in a weapon switch, throw shield and then switch back, it should just trigger the cooldown of the skill when you equip a shield.

(Brace for incoming deluge of hot sweaty tears from the battleground macroers)

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are we gonna make shield bash also incur its’ CD when you swap? if not, i dont see why paladins shouldnt be allowed to pull the same trick warrior has used since vanilla

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Only if the same applies to warrior abilities. It’s a classic thing, it should not be changed because “I don’t like it”.

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okay that… huh, didnt expect to run into my twin here

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no thank you.

This will turn into other things being locked behind swapping. the GCD feels bad with no haste stat.

and yes, it already triggers GCD in combat when you swap weapons.

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if you’re in combat it triggers a GCD to equip shield and use avenger

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Yes. /10chrs

because it’s a paladin and people hate seeing them be good at anything besides healing.

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Funnily enough Holy Paladin feels BAD in SoD at this bracket, I have one at 25 and rolled a priest. :frowning:

Our paladin is doing work with healing was super nicoe especially since they can bubble and focus on healing in some parts

Oh it’s my favorite class and spec in Classic, Im banking my “main” paladin for phase 2 and hope things improve for Holy. They need to reconsider the way they decided to implement Divine Sacrifice, for starters. It went from being godly to being meh.

I believe what the OP is saying is it should put the skill on CD so a 30 sec CD when the shield is equipped. Just like equipping a trinket or any other on use.

Should they do this? I don’t have a dog in this race. I play Prot so I don’t switch anything. Should it be Prot exclusive or require a 30 sec CD for Rets to activate? Maybe since it is a powerful Prot spell.

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It should exist as it exists, same with warriors switching to shield for an interrupt then back to dps weapons. It’s the way the game works in Classic, again someone wants it changed because they don’t like it.

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why? warriors can switch shields for shield wall, spell reflect, shield slam etc… i don’t play a paladin but seems fair to give them this they don’t even have a gap closer

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Maybe but probably not.

This isn’t the same though. Shield swap has always been done for utility. Spell reflect, mitigate damage, etc. As a warrior.

Avenger Shield is an exclusive Prot Paladin skill that does ALOT of Aoe damage. Denying that isn’t looking at the facts. So should the skill be on a 30 sec CD after swapping? Maybe. Should Ret not have access to it? Maybe. However that could be too far as Fury/Prot is a thing so maybe 2hand Ret tanking should be also.

Wrong. I’m looking at it from a design perspective. Saying Warrior and Pally swapping shields to use completely different type of abilities is the same is wrong. As I outlined above. Ret is gaining the most powerful Prot spell that has always been exclusive to Prot. It’s not the same.

I would argue that warriors shouldn’t be able to just switch either. Otherwise what’s the point of even tying abilities to any piece of gear? Gameplay wise there’s no difference between walking around with a shield or not. Might as well just let you use all the abilities regardless of what you’re equipping.

(and my 2 main classes are Paladin and Warrior before anyone starts crying about people wanting either of them to suck.)

I think you might be right, but if OP doesn’t know the difference between CD and GCD maybe they are not familiar enough with the game to make design decisions.

just make it share cooldown with HoJ and will be ok

Which parts? So much stuff goes through bubble in SOD. Can’t bubble heal on the shadow murlocs in BFD, can’t bubble to avoid damage when the shield shatters against the turtle, at least you can bubble off the stacks on the last boss.

switching weapons triggers the GCD, that’s the penalty. it’s fine
avenger’s shield should just be trinketable / shiftable, like any other slow.

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