Paladin ret is super fun to play against!

Is doing my entire health bar in 2 globals ok?

All the necrolord rets I’ve qued into make that covenant look awful idk

were they playing with a disc and the disc was using dark archangel before he does that tho?

Cause myself I can do 3.5k crit sanctified wrath and 8k wings, add another 3.5k + a free divine storm and 15% additional dmg to all of that.

All these furries wanting kyrian to get gutted, leave it be : 3 it has been nerfed already buffbot and furry isn’t for everyone.

Also OP, if you see a paladin with giant wings and a red angry face pops on his head you might want to react accordingly, ok judgment hit you the other 2 gcds are negated by a defensive. You can react it’s not cheap shot you’re dead.

It was a Ret/warr/rsham mirror and I did 100k more damage than them, so.

I would prefer ring of clarity goes away, they unnerf the damage, and make q conduit that just increases its damage some. Makes it more manageable and less 50/50 to kill. My issue atm with Kyrian is that RoC is the ONLY good offensive. The other two, over a 5m game, will do as much damage as ONE RoC proc. And you should proc twice in a 5m game maybe 3x if lucky so why even take the other two?

Blizz doing blizz things.

We wanted mobility and a real wall back instead of shield of veng, and they cranked our damage and healing instead just so they nerf it in coming months leaving us without damage and wheelchair bound again.

To be fair, if a disc used DA on you and you get a proc of RoC I think enemy just dies there of they aren’t layering Defensives.

Ret presses wings while his war is disarmed and I have 10stack maelstrom pooled.

In 2 globals reaction time with 18% haste (I have 26k total hp, I was at about 18k when he judged):

Judgement 11k dam. (26% hp left)
1-Chain harvest 10k heal. (65% hp left)
Final reck 8k+melee crit for 8k. (4% hp left)
2-heal surge with ES up for 9k. (38% hp left)
Templar Verdict for 19k. (-35% hp left haHA)

I’ll still eat those for breakfast over BFA but daaaaaamn son, outplayed.

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Also @ any enhance players, how does the damage thing work when u press ascendance? I just notice whenever u press ascendance, I lose a ton of hp instantly but enhance like seems to wind up a lot before pressing it

I have only hit the training dummy with enhance for a while but basically ascendance reduce the base CD on stormstrike (gives it a different name too) and makes it nature damage IIRC.

It just makes the enhance lottery damage much more reliable while its up due to the short CD on stormstrike. There isn’t any real ramp for it though you could bank 10 maelstrom so you can weave in lightning bolt instant casts between stormstrikes. It’s like wings for shammy.

I need what he’s having for breakfast. I’ve only seen 12k Templar. Maybe I should use FR :thinking:

Ascend for all shaman specs have an on use effect now because we cried to have gcd removed. Enh/ele each have big magic aoe, enh nature ele fire. Then its back to windstrikes and lava bursts.

50-50 winrate at 1500 as rogue mage and you wonder why rets are easy at your mmr? XD I’m not rating shaming, I’m still only 1800, but there’s a huge difference between fighting random pve players and running into pikaboo, vanguards, etc. all in one que session.

Ty, seems like a really cooked change than just literally putting it off the gcd cause that initial damage is so much

You don’t really run Reck Aura with FR spec, getting the melee proc to line up with your burst isn’t really worth it. If you aren’t running Sanctified Wrath the wings procs are just meh.

Imo, better to run lawbringer and sprint freedom. Lawbringer is around 1.1k extra per judgment (only procs once with divine toll) and then catching people off guard with FR+ seraphim 1 min after main burst.

You also can’t get 19k TV anymore, not since the FR nerf

I dont know the builds or talents or even what FR stands for but my numbers are exact.

Yes I did get TVd for 19k last night, Garbage streamed the sesh. Glad rets are nerfed though.

Aura of reckoning is like the best talent to run literally all the time lol

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That had to be a stars aligning crit, maybe had Dark Archangel also. Ret can’t live against most teams running badge and proc, I feel like I die so fast against rmp I have to use HP trinket plus relentless.

Burst is high, I got crit for back to back 14k star surges last night. Woohoo

I disagree, I’ll take consistency over randomness. With SR it’s great, but without it wings alone is pretty dull. Picking exactly how you want to burst every 1 min is something ret has never had before, it’s refreshing and a welcome play style change.

So only AimedShot if TrueShot is up? Got it, thanks for the advice. And yeah, im running Kyrian.