Starting super late so looking for classes that can fill multiple roles for pugging heroics. What is easiest to play and get in pugs for dps? What requires less brain, seal twisting or feral ?
What is an easier tank ? Can they be geared easily ?
Honestly it’s a pretty close call in tbc. I’d worry more about which you’d rather take into wrath afterward.
7 Likes
seal twisting does, but if youre asking this question you aren’t going to want to play feral in wotlk.
1 Like
pally is love, pally is life
2 Likes
Pally offers a ton of utility now, and they become gods in WotLK.
Seal twisting is definitely easier than feral powershifting… also you get to look badass swinging a big weapon with shiny armor and wings and sh… stuff.
Can’t speak to seal twisting, but feral powershifting isn’t a thing in WotLK. It’s a complex priority system that has you juggling 4ish different timers, energy, ooc procs, and combo points (which accumulate unpredictably based on your crit rate). It’s actually almost the opposite of a lot of the button spammy, gcd-locked, dps systems other classes have. In many cases, it’s better to not press a button for a few seconds then to always be mashing an ability as soon as you have enough energy.
Edit: and CD usage (berserk, TF), bleed dot (rake,rip) snapshotting (if it’s a thing), and probably a couple of other things I’m forgetting about. The flowchart for it was nuts.
I really enjoyed it the first time around. I think I might enjoy SB spam a lot more this time.
You better tank if you want groups, and paladins are by far the best tanks.
I think overall based on your criteria you’d probably have more fun on a paladin
I have a Druid at 50 from classic so I ended up just going with that since it will take me less time to level. See how it goes I guess I got 3 other specs anyway if feral ends up to difficult.
I tried leveling a Pally and as feared its boring as heck with the auto attack. Maybe it gets better the higher I go. I’m working on my druid right now leveling him and he’s 18. Leveling in Bear form until Cat is mind numbing but I know that once I get cat it will go a lot faster. Plus, I plan on going Resto for PVP. I use to main a Holy Pally for PVP back when Retail had PVP servers and I had a blast. As others have said, Pally’s seem to shine in WOTLK.
2 Likes
Gets better when you get cat form and even better yet when you get Ferocious Bite at 32 (Rip is pretty trash at these low levels). But it still feels pretty weak overall, not gonna lie. I’m sure Mangle will help at 50 though. And of course… this spec gets 5 billion times better in Wrath.
True True. I still have my Troll Druid that I mess around with for a bit but I won’t touch Retail again. After going TBC I have no desire to go back to Retail.
I plan to main a feral DPS and have a ret/prot pally as an alt in WOTLK. In TBC you can’t go wrong with pally tanking, as they are BiS tanks for 5 mans and most raids require at least one. Ret is annoying to play because you spend most of your time watching a swing timer…but feral DPS feels good once you can get the rotation down.
Both are good choices, but if you want the path of least resistance, go paladin. They’re still king tanks in WOTLK and ret gets really good with no twisting required.
Do you find yourself offtanking a lot in raids or do you get to dps in cat a fair bit? (Tbc)
Yea I just gave Paladin a shot to lvl 20 the other day. Didnt really see the appeal, felt boring as all hell especially if you miss a swing with your 2 hander. Its further emboldened me to stick with my half leveled Druid.
Yeah I’m working on an Orc Shaman right now with a Shield and 1 hander. Something about missing with 2 handers seems off to me. Can’t wait to get Dual Wield at some point. I guess I’m so use to leveling my Rogue right now with the 2 1 handers fits my cup of tea more.
Go prot pally for instant groups for the rest of time
Having played both a warrior and a paladin as tanks, both are nearly full BIS, paladins are braindead to play. A bad paladin tank, should just look to do something else. 90% of the skill of paladin tanking is knowing your caps and working around them so you gear correctly, and not letting AOE packs hit you in the back. Compared to a moment to moment constantly pushing buttons on a warrior, paladins are pretty boring. Their single target threat is pretty low and to get it high enough to do really good threat, you sacrifice quite a bit in terms of survivability and need groups made specifically for them. Such as having 2 shamans dropping totems for them specifically or a second paladin giving them Sanctity Aura so they can spec differently.
Ferals take a bit more skill and have more asked of them such as shifting to innervate or battlerez, going cat and having to DPS or sometimes throwing out a clutch tranquility but do not require nearly as much support to do great threat. But lack in AOE capability, so multitarget tanking is a lot of tabbing and spreading single target threat around but you generate a lot of threat so you can do that pretty easily, it just takes multiple global cooldowns to get it all under control.
Honestly they are both easy. But powershifting is simple, shred, shred, powershift macro, shred, shred, powershift macro.